Kiku, Blight's Flower

Started by Gorzo, December 07, 2014, 01:29:27 PM

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Gorzo

Quote from: Kaalia with haste on December 09, 2014, 07:35:39 PM
Just did a double take. NO PHYREXIAN ARENA?!?! That card is AWESOME!

I totally forgot about arena. That's just shameful.

-{Extinguish All Hope}
+{Phyrexian Arena}

-{Nevinyrrl's Disk}. Too slow, as much I like the anti-artifact and anti-enchant part

Kaalia with haste

How good is abhorrent overlord in this deck? He seems.. Meh. The harpies are nice to sorta chill and block if you're playing in a voltron heavy meta but otherwise.. Meh.

Kaalia with haste

Also, have you thought about {expedition map}? It grabs coffers nicely in the early game or the late.

Gorzo

Quote from: Kaalia with haste on December 09, 2014, 08:52:56 PM
Also, have you thought about {expedition map}? It grabs coffers nicely in the early game or the late.

I have, it's just so hard to fit in.

You're right about Overlord. The devotion would be better spent on Gray Merchant, huh?

Kaalia with haste

Quote from: Gorzo on December 10, 2014, 04:28:29 AM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on December 09, 2014, 08:52:56 PM
Also, have you thought about {expedition map}? It grabs coffers nicely in the early game or the late.

I have, it's just so hard to fit in.

You're right about Overlord. The devotion would be better spent on Gray Merchant, huh?
Definitely. Especially in what I'm assuming is a multiplayer setting.

the_intelligentleman

How about some removal? {Doom Blade} and others? Seems like besides board wipes, the deck is lacking in spot removal.

InfinitiveDivinity

Quote from: the_intelligentleman on December 10, 2014, 08:55:46 AM
How about some removal? {Doom Blade} and others? Seems like besides board wipes, the deck is lacking in spot removal.
With so many wraths there's not much need for spot removal, especially with that general. In fact, I think she's plenty.

Kaalia with haste

Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on December 10, 2014, 09:09:32 AM
Quote from: the_intelligentleman on December 10, 2014, 08:55:46 AM
How about some removal? {Doom Blade} and others? Seems like besides board wipes, the deck is lacking in spot removal.
With so many wraths there's not much need for spot removal, especially with that general. In fact, I think she's plenty.

Gorzo

Yeah, with Kiku at the helm, and Creatures like {Avatar of Woe}, {Dark Impostor}, {Royal Assassin}, and things like all the board wipes, {Thornbite Staff} on one of the many death touches, and {Riever Demon} and {Dread Cacodemon}, I'm not too worried about a lack of killing things :P

-{Abhorrent Overlord}
+{Gray Merchant of Asphodel}

InfinitiveDivinity

Quote from: Gorzo on December 10, 2014, 05:04:15 PM
Yeah, with Kiku at the helm, and Creatures like {Avatar of Woe}, {Dark Impostor}, {Royal Assassin}, and things like all the board wipes, {Thornbite Staff} on one of the many death touches, and {Riever Demon} and {Dread Cacodemon}, I'm not too worried about a lack of killing things :P

-{Abhorrent Overlord}
+{Gray Merchant of Asphodel}
{Thornbite Staff} can give poison counters too can't it? When paired with an infect creature?

Also, not really feeling {Tainted Strike} to be honest. I understand it's a 1-hit KO, but I think either equipment or an enchantment giving infect is just better, which you already have. I know that it can win games out of nowhere and allows for battle tricks, but I'm still not quite on board. Maybe it's my negative disposition towards infect as is haha.

AdamS

with blacks lack of enchantment removal i think you should leave the disk in the deck

Gorzo

Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on December 10, 2014, 05:30:37 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on December 10, 2014, 05:04:15 PM
Yeah, with Kiku at the helm, and Creatures like {Avatar of Woe}, {Dark Impostor}, {Royal Assassin}, and things like all the board wipes, {Thornbite Staff} on one of the many death touches, and {Riever Demon} and {Dread Cacodemon}, I'm not too worried about a lack of killing things :P

-{Abhorrent Overlord}
+{Gray Merchant of Asphodel}
{Thornbite Staff} can give poison counters too can't it? When paired with an infect creature?

Also, not really feeling {Tainted Strike} to be honest. I understand it's a 1-hit KO, but I think either equipment or an enchantment giving infect is just better, which you already have. I know that it can win games out of nowhere and allows for battle tricks, but I'm still not quite on board. Maybe it's my negative disposition towards infect as is haha.

I have to keep tainted strike. Being able to cast it on other people's creatures during combat for ultimate shenanigans is too good and too funny to pass up.

That reminds me, though, I forgot to add {Phyresis}! Silly me.

+{Phyresis}
Quote from: AdamS on December 10, 2014, 05:33:44 PM
with blacks lack of enchantment removal i think you should leave the disk in the deck

As much as I agree with this, disk is so slow... I feel like it's always going to get naturalized before I can untap it. That being said, I do want to keep the disk... Is there anything you would recommend cutting to make room for it? I need 7 cuts if I add the disk back in.

Kaalia with haste

Hand of the praetors seems pretty bad to me unless there's some kind of super combo I'm not seeing

the_intelligentleman

{Hythonia, The Cruel} doesn't seem that good. If you thought disk was slow, watch out.

Gorzo

Hythonia is a big deathtoucher scary threat person. She's not there as a board wipe, that's just a bonus that might happen :P I like her as a strong defensive card, which I have a feeling I'm going to need (which is why I've chosen to include Crawlspace).

Hand of the Praetor is an Infect Lord. Size being the main downside to infect creatures, anthems like him and Bad Moon are super helpful.