Kiku, Blight's Flower

Started by Gorzo, December 07, 2014, 01:29:27 PM

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Gorzo

Commander [1]
{Kiku, Night's Flower}

Creatures [39]
{Avatar of Woe}
{Bloodgift Demon}
{Corrosive Mentor}
{Crypt Ghast}
{Dark Impostor}
{Demon of Wailing Agonies}
{Dread}
{Dread Cacodemon}
{Erebos, God of the Dead}
{Fell Shepherd}
{Geth, Lord of the Vault}
{Grave Titan}
{Gray Merchant of Asphodel}
{Hand of the Praetors}
{Hythonia the Cruel}
{Ichor Rats}
{Korlash, Heir to Blackblade}
{Magus of the Coffers}
{Midnight Banshee}
{Necropolis Regent}
{Necroskitter}
{Nighthowler}
{Nightmare}
{Nirkana Revenant}
{Ob Nixilis, the Fallen}
{Pestilence Demon
{Phage the Untouchable}
{Phyrexian Crusader}
{Phyrexian Juggernaut}
{Plague Myr}
{Reaper from the Abyss}
{Reaper of Sheoldred}
{Riever Demon}
{Royal Assassin}
{Rune-Scarred Demon}
{Sheoldred, Whispering One}
{Skirsdag High Priest}
{Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon}
{Soul of Innistrad}
{Visara the Dreadful}

Instants [2]
{Tainted Strike}
{Tendrils of Corruption}

Sorceries [13]
{Black Sun's Zenith}
{Corrupt}
{Damnation}
{Decree of Pain}
{Exsanguinate}
{Life's Finale}
{Mutilate}
{Necromantic Selection}
{Plague Wind}
{Promise of Power}
{Syphon Mind}
{Tempt with Immortality}
{Toxic Deluge}

Artifacts [14]
{Assault Suit}
{Coercive Portal}
{Contagion Clasp}
{Contagion Engine}
{Crawlspace}
{Decimator Web}
{Grafted Exoskeleton}
{Jet Medallion}
{Lashwrithe}
{Nightmare Lash}
{Ring of Xathrid}
{Thornbite Staff}
{Whip of Erebos}
{Whispersilk Cloak}

Enchantments [6]
{Bad Moon}
{Enslave}
{Glistening Oil}
{Necropotence}
{Phyresis}
{Phyrexian Arena}

Planeswalkers [1]
{Liliana of the Dark Realms}

Land [34]
{Arcane Lighthouse}
{Barren Moor}
{Bojuka Bog}
{Cabal Coffers}
{Crypt of Agadeem}
{Dakmor Salvage}
{Ebon Stronghold}
{Everglades}
{Leechridden Swamp}
{Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx}
{Piranha Marsh}
{Polluted Mire}
{Rogue's Passage}
{Swamp} × 18
{Temple of the False God}
{Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth}
{Volrath's Stronghold}

110 Cards

Gorzo

A very rough first draft of my mono black Blight deck.  It's already 10 cards over as you can see, and I'm sure there's a lot more to add once suggestions come in. Cuts are gonna be tough on this one, so any comments are appreciated!

Munchlax

New Ob is kinda bad. Please remove

Gorzo

Quote from: Munchlax on December 08, 2014, 11:07:24 PM
New Ob is kinda bad. Please remove

What's so bad about him? A 5/5 flying Demon for 5 mana and 2 life is a fine deal, then he stays as a life tap to keep me alive and a meatshield to absorb a swing after that. I doubt he'll ever survive to drop an emblem, but if he does it's card city!

Kaalia with haste

Quote from: Gorzo on December 09, 2014, 03:28:58 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on December 08, 2014, 11:07:24 PM
New Ob is kinda bad. Please remove

What's so bad about him? A 5/5 flying Demon for 5 mana and 2 life is a fine deal, then he stays as a life tap to keep me alive and a meatshield to absorb a swing after that. I doubt he'll ever survive to drop an emblem, but if he does it's card city!
I'm torn between sides here but I think I fall into the group of people that doesn't like ob that much. In commander, when I'm thinking if a new card for my deck, I ask my self "Does this do one or more if the following":
Help me make a threat (whether it ramps, is part of a combo, draws cards, tutor, whatever)

Answer a threat

Be a threat.

Sure a 5/5 Demon for 5 and 2 life is fine, but it's relatively low impact and isn't gonna do too much in this game. The you have some life gain, which is nice, but you could just play things that give lifelink to your creatures. Then, he dies. If he gets anywhere NEAR that emblem, he's gonna be the table's target.

JordanCirk

Quote from: Kaalia with haste on December 09, 2014, 07:44:02 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on December 09, 2014, 03:28:58 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on December 08, 2014, 11:07:24 PM
New Ob is kinda bad. Please remove

What's so bad about him? A 5/5 flying Demon for 5 mana and 2 life is a fine deal, then he stays as a life tap to keep me alive and a meatshield to absorb a swing after that. I doubt he'll ever survive to drop an emblem, but if he does it's card city!
I'm torn between sides here but I think I fall into the group of people that doesn't like ob that much. In commander, when I'm thinking if a new card for my deck, I ask my self "Does this do one or more if the following":
Help me make a threat (whether it ramps, is part of a combo, draws cards, tutor, whatever)

Answer a threat

Be a threat.

Sure a 5/5 Demon for 5 and 2 life is fine, but it's relatively low impact and isn't gonna do too much in this game. The you have some life gain, which is nice, but you could just play things that give lifelink to your creatures. Then, he dies. If he gets anywhere NEAR that emblem, he's gonna be the table's target.
^This.

I have to agree that I've been un-impressed with him. Whenever anyone would play him, it never impacted the game. I'd rather be running Liliana of the Veil over ob.

InfinitiveDivinity

{Zun Yu, Wei Advisor} seems decent for your general. {Liliana of the Dark Realms} is also pretty sick, especially if you can get a {Lake of the Dead} out of her.

EDIT: Nvm, Lilly is in there haha

Gorzo

Fair enough, some solid points. I'll cut him. I need at least 10 cuts anyway :P

- {Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath}

Lili of the Veil is a bit out of my budget, as much as I'd love to add her. The only reason I can even afford to have {Damnation} in there is because I traded for a real beat up copy of it for cheap

Anything else jump out as cut material to anyone, or a "must add?"

griffin131

Black without {Necropotence} is a mistake.

Gorzo

Quote from: griffin131 on December 09, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
Black without {Necropotence} is a mistake.

That is something I want to ask about. The only reason Necropotence is not in there is because the deck lacks life gain (it's pretty much just one card, {Whip of Erebos}). With Infect on the board, I'm likely to be a high priority target as well. As amazing as Necropotence is, do you think this deck can support paying that much life for the cards?

InfinitiveDivinity

Quote from: Gorzo on December 09, 2014, 06:43:21 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on December 09, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
Black without {Necropotence} is a mistake.

That is something I want to ask about. The only reason Necropotence is not in there is because the deck lacks life gain (it's pretty much just one card, {Whip of Erebos}). With Infect on the board, I'm likely to be a high priority target as well. As amazing as Necropotence is, do you think this deck can support paying that much life for the cards?
I run suicide {B}, I think this deck can do it. You would probably want to add {Basilisk Collar} though. Also I just noticed he was absent, you need {Gray Merchant of Asphodel}! He's a beast dude.

InfinitiveDivinity

Assistance! Things I think you can drop:

•{Liliana's Reaver} (Just seems like a bad {Grave Titan})

•{Xathrid Gorgon} (I had her in my mono-{B} forever because she's Visara's homegirl, but I realized Visara can ride solo)

•{Nightmare Incursion} (Targets only a single player, and isn't really re-useable)

•{Ring of Xathrid} (Just a little too slow when compared to the {Nightmare}ifacts)

•{Trigon of Corruption} (Too expensive for too minimal of an effect. I see the -1/-1 subtheme and the wipe, but still doesn't seem good enough)

Hope that helps!

Gorzo

Helps quite a bit! I agree with you all of those point,  with the sole exception of the ring. Giving regeneration to and growing my Infect threats is a perfect fit for the deck, I feel.  Can you imagine that ring on {Reaper of Sheoldred} or Skittles? That's some scary stuff.

-{Liliana's Reaver}
+{Grave Titan}

-{Xathrid Gorgon}
-{Nightmare Incursion}
-{Trigon of Corruption}

+{Necropotence}

Edit: another thought - I have 10 board wipes in here. Too many? If I cut a couple, which ones should I cut?

Kaalia with haste

Extinguish all hope jumps out as being not too great.

Kaalia with haste

Just did a double take. NO PHYREXIAN ARENA?!?! That card is AWESOME!