Question of logic

[KILLERBEE]

Ron Paul for President 2016.

[KILLERBEE]

Yes that is what manslaughter means.  It also comes with a felony.  I do do believe they should get punished, but not with something as serious as a felony.  They were just trying to do their job.

They were trying to do their job improperly, by not following the rules, which they're the rule enforcers of society which make this more of an issue because they don't following the .FRACKING. rules that have been put in place for them and aren't punished for it!, and trying to arrest a man for a suspected misdemeanour that at most should have been a ticket, not a detainment/arrest or especially an illegal takedown that can lead to serious injury or death.
Again, over something as petty as selling cigs; I'd give the guy a stern talking to and let him walk before I'd put his life or mine in a situation like that, especially since the original reason they were called had nothing to do with him selling cigarettes, he was in trouble with that prior and they never said originally that he was doing that at that instance, they just assumed he was and tried to arrest him on suspicion of doing it again.
Police are supposed to have cognitive skills and talk to people they abuse their power on a epic scale and get away with it because they obviously know they can. Hold the people who break the rules accountable and punish them accordingly. Sell cigs illegally; slap on the wrist/ticket. You're an officer in the field and you fail to properly assess a threat and decide to take down a man with a choke hold which has been deemed illegal; you're fired and will face charges because you failed to do your job properly and follow the rules that have been put in place for you resulting in the death of a man. He did have a heart attack but the cause of death was compression of the neck and chest from the one cop around his throat and 4 on his back "necessary? :/ " He would have died without the heart attack.
People need to stop watching Fox News. I have so much more to post about the topic but FFS see the problem for what it is and stop protecting the cops just because they're cops. They need to be held to a higher standard, and held accountable for their actions. It's getting out of hand.
In this case manslaughter should be one of the charges he faces because by definition that's what he committed, if he gets off then he gets off but at least there would be a trial rather than the courts saying that they did absolutely nothing wrong when obviously there's issues.

[MuggyWuggy]

I have so much more to post about the topic but FFS see the problem for what it is and stop protecting the cops just because they're cops. They need to be held to a higher standard, and held accountable for their actions. It's getting out of hand.

This.

[Piotr]

if I stab you in the toe and you bleed to death because you have hemophilia, I stabbed you to death. It's just what it means.

So glad you are not a mod here anymore.

I mean, you are so full of hate. Why?

[Piotr]

How would this case be judged under our iMtG Law?

[the_intelligentleman]

How would this case be judged under our iMtG Law?

Well, in the Imtg law it says, " Do not break the law in the prevention of law breaking." So I think that is pretty much all we would need to convict this guy for murder.

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

How would this case be judged under our iMtG Law?

Well, in the Imtg law it says, " Do not break the law in the prevention of law breaking." So I think that is pretty much all we would need to convict this guy for murder.

2nd degree murder, technically.

[Gorzo]

if I stab you in the toe and you bleed to death because you have hemophilia, I stabbed you to death. It's just what it means.

So glad you are not a mod here anymore.

I mean, you are so full of hate. Why?

Lol No idea where you get any notion of hatred from that example. Are you suggesting that you think I actually recommend stabbing taysby in the toe? You should probably notice that nobody (including taysby) has even thought I meant anything remotely close to that. Probably because they all understand context.

[Piotr]

if I stab you in the toe and you bleed to death because you have hemophilia, I stabbed you to death. It's just what it means.

So glad you are not a mod here anymore.

I mean, you are so full of hate. Why?

Lol No idea where you get any notion of hatred from that example. Are you suggesting that you think I actually recommend stabbing taysby in the toe? You should probably notice that nobody (including taysby) has even thought I meant anything remotely close to that. Probably because they all understand context.

To put this back into context, would you mind telling me if goal justifies the means?

As for the hate, you right above suggesting that I'm stupid, and that I cannot understand context. Perhaps you are not full of hate, only 90% of it lol.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

I do agree with you that there should have at least been a trial.

Finally...this is all we are asking for, the Grand Jury saying that there was insufficient evidence was a load of .poo..

[Piotr]

I do agree with you that there should have at least been a trial.

Finally...this is all we are asking for, the Grand Jury saying that there was insufficient evidence was a load of .poo..

Are you mad? Taysby was saying this from the very start of the thread. Is hate blinding you?

[MuggyWuggy]

Do you find a victimless crime (selling untaxed cigs) worthy of death? Or even just violence?

Taysby has reasoned that because the man is a criminal, his death was technically his fault.

[Piotr]

Do you find a victimless crime (selling untaxed cigs) worthy of death? Or even just violence?

Taysby has reasoned that because the man is a criminal, his death was technically his fault.

No Taysby never did reasoned that. Taysby reasoned that the cop should be punished for something else than murder, not that the victim was deserving capital punishment as you seem to be suggesting. Is hate blinding you?

[the_intelligentleman]

I do agree with you that there should have at least been a trial.

Finally...this is all we are asking for, the Grand Jury saying that there was insufficient evidence was a load of .poo..

Are you mad? Taysby was saying this from the very start of the thread. Is hate blinding you?

Piotr, I think "hate" is a very strong word. All Argus is saying is that the grand jury should have had more then enough evidence on trial. He has a right to his opinion, and therefore I don't think you have the right to say that he "is blinded by hate". Against what exactly is he so hateful? I don't see anywhere where "hate" would come into play.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

I do agree with you that there should have at least been a trial.

Finally...this is all we are asking for, the Grand Jury saying that there was insufficient evidence was a load of .poo..

Are you mad? Taysby was saying this from the very start of the thread. Is hate blinding you?

Taysby has been saying from the start of the thread that the officer shouldn't have been tried for manslaughter, claiming it should be a lesser charge. Is hate blinding you?

His first post on the thread:

He was resisting arrest in the first place though.

I'd say take him to court about the choke-hold, but not for manslaughter because that wasn't his intent.