It's Boring on Here

Started by Taysby, November 16, 2014, 10:35:46 PM

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Rothsteine

Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 18, 2014, 12:27:20 AM
You realize this guy mentions one item not being the main cause of GW, but its not even any proof he gives, he just discusses and adds to his theory. Less than a page for an article does not really suffice for evidence. And please, don't say watch a video, if its in a video, it should be transcribed or exist in literary form already.

Compound factors are what cause global warming, not just car emissions and people breathing.  The amount of deforestation, pollutants from all forms of industry and overpopulation are additional causes of GW. He's merely stating CO2 isn't the primary cause of GW. I don't even see one mention of carbon monoxide in the article, which is a deadly gas for us that is affecting the lifespan of other gases in our ozone layer, messing up the natural balance created over time. Just to point out once again, CO is not CO2.

Climate change has been happening, but you are a little young to actually notice the differences in temperature averages in regions. You've witnessed about less than a decade of climate change that you may have actually noticed. Others have seen 20-40 years of change.
I've lived in California my whole life. Not only is the direct sun much hotter now, less clouds form, far more smoggy days, longer summers, shorter winters, lack of rain, longer fire seasons. I believe all of this is a reason to believe in climate change. Burbank, CA used to peak around 105* in the 90s on average, now it peaks around 110*.

TLDR

He proved nothing, he's just discussing his theory. So therefore, nothing to disprove.
This is true

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

One dude can say that his models show no global warming, but 97% of scientists agree that some sort of climate change is happening and humans are to blame. It's sad that even the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration says that we have climate change, and yet idiots who aren't educated (not this particular professor, but hundreds of politicians) think they know better.

Here is a clip from the Daily Show in which Jon Stewart discusses climate change, it's worth the watch, as he features an idiotic Congressman arguing with climate experts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPgZfhnCAdI
Last Week Tonight has some interesting commentary too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjuGCJJUGsg

MuggyWuggy

Tell that to the polar bears who are drowning

MuggyWuggy

He has proved nothing, it says he dicusses

Discussion is not proof of anything

Also, polar bears migrate south now as the arctic is melting and they have no where to walk "north"

Polar bears have been migrating south and mating with grizzlies, creating super bears. This wouldn't even happen if GW wasn't happening and forcing polar bears out of their homes.

Like I said, find other sources, not your half page discussion statement.

MuggyWuggy

Well if you had SOME common knowledge of GW you wouldn't be so snarky to assume that CO2 is the #1 opponent. Oh wait...

MuggyWuggy

Quote from: Taysby on November 18, 2014, 12:22:10 PM
He put together a graph of the average temperature of the earth over time.  The line of best fit has a slope of 0.  The earth is therefore not getting warmer

HE HAS A GRAPH CALL THE FACT POLICE!!!


Kaworu, the Fifth Child

Quote from: Taysby on November 18, 2014, 02:50:30 PM
My point was that if you look at the temperature swings (it swung like 5 degrees below average and 5 degrees above average every year or so) a slow raise in temperature sure seems like something that would happen naturally.
Lmao not really. Why does it seem liks the destruction of the earth due to an unbalance in once balanced gasses happened naturally?

Gorzo

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cBdxDFpDp_k
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KJhbQIlu4mk

I don't think there's anyone on the planet who can explain science better than Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Taysby on November 18, 2014, 06:40:08 PM
"due to increased levels of co2"
BECAUSE THAT IS ONE CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO THE LARGER PROBLEM, YOU .loving. IDIOT. CO2 might not be the no. 1 cause, but the increased levels of multiple different gases in our atmosphere is leading to an overall warmer (although only slightly) climate.

@Muggy: That is the best graph I have seen this year.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Taysby on November 18, 2014, 10:10:51 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 18, 2014, 09:45:14 PM
Quote from: Taysby on November 18, 2014, 06:40:08 PM
"due to increased levels of co2"
BECAUSE THAT IS ONE CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO THE LARGER PROBLEM, YOU .loving. IDIOT. CO2 might not be the no. 1 cause, but the increased levels of multiple different gases in our atmosphere is leading to an overall warmer (although only slightly) climate.

@Muggy: That is the best graph I have seen this year.

That is sly what Neil degrasse Tyson said, and I thought we had just agreed that co2 has nothing to do with it.  You guys keep changing your minds
Science doesn't change that quickly: I agreed that Co2 isn't the main problem and gets too much press, but I never said Co2 wasn't a problem at all.

the_intelligentleman

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 18, 2014, 10:20:35 PM
Quote from: Taysby on November 18, 2014, 10:10:51 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 18, 2014, 09:45:14 PM
Quote from: Taysby on November 18, 2014, 06:40:08 PM
"due to increased levels of co2"
BECAUSE THAT IS ONE CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO THE LARGER PROBLEM, YOU .loving. IDIOT. CO2 might not be the no. 1 cause, but the increased levels of multiple different gases in our atmosphere is leading to an overall warmer (although only slightly) climate.

@Muggy: That is the best graph I have seen this year.

That is sly what Neil degrasse Tyson said, and I thought we had just agreed that co2 has nothing to do with it.  You guys keep changing your minds
Science doesn't change that quickly: I agreed that Co2 isn't the main problem and gets too much press, but I never said Co2 wasn't a problem at all.

It doesn't really matter what the main problem is. All we really need to know is that humans are causing a lot of the problem.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: the_intelligentleman on November 18, 2014, 10:41:23 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 18, 2014, 10:20:35 PM
Quote from: Taysby on November 18, 2014, 10:10:51 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 18, 2014, 09:45:14 PM
Quote from: Taysby on November 18, 2014, 06:40:08 PM
"due to increased levels of co2"
BECAUSE THAT IS ONE CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO THE LARGER PROBLEM, YOU .loving. IDIOT. CO2 might not be the no. 1 cause, but the increased levels of multiple different gases in our atmosphere is leading to an overall warmer (although only slightly) climate.

@Muggy: That is the best graph I have seen this year.

That is sly what Neil degrasse Tyson said, and I thought we had just agreed that co2 has nothing to do with it.  You guys keep changing your minds
Science doesn't change that quickly: I agreed that Co2 isn't the main problem and gets too much press, but I never said Co2 wasn't a problem at all.

It doesn't really matter what the main problem is. All we really need to know is that humans are causing a lot of the problem.
Exactly, either way you see the Co2 "debate," other gases such as methane are undeniably causing damage and deforestation is horrible.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Taysby on November 18, 2014, 10:58:42 PM
We agree that cutting down 100% of forests are bad, but most logging only removes 1/3 of the trees, and it makes so more plant life can grow and it's better environment for the animals
Yes, because people follow the laws we create /sarcasm

Popper23345

Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 18, 2014, 12:09:04 PM

Polar bears have been migrating south and mating with grizzlies, creating super bears.

Woah, super bears? :D
10/10 would buy