Griffin Question

[DrainCleaner]

Can i cast {Misthollow Griffin} if i have it exiled face down? Like with {Bane Alley Broker} for example.

[redwolv]

Sure. As long as there is a legal way for you to know what it is.

[particle]

Sure. As long as there is a legal way for you to know what it is.

if bane alley broker leaves the field, you can no longer look at it, so you cant cast it from exile.

406.3. Exiled cards are, by default, kept face up and may be examined by any player at any time. Cards "exiled face down" can't be examined by any player except when instructions allow it. A card exiled face down has no characteristics, but the spell or ability that exiled it may allow it to be cast from exile. Unless that card is being cast face down (see rule 707.4), the card is turned face up just before the player announces that he or she is casting the spell (see rule 601.2).

109.3. An object's characteristics are name, mana cost, color, color indicator, card type, subtype, supertype, expansion symbol, rules text, abilities, power, toughness, loyalty, hand modifier, and life modifier. Objects can have some or all of these characteristics. Any other information about an object isn't a characteristic. For example, characteristics don't include whether a permanent is tapped, a spell's target, an object's owner or controller, what an Aura enchants, and so on.

[DrainCleaner]

Awesome

[redwolv]

Sure. As long as there is a legal way for you to know what it is.

if bane alley broker leaves the field, you can no longer look at it, so you cant cast it from exile.

406.3. Exiled cards are, by default, kept face up and may be examined by any player at any time. Cards "exiled face down" can't be examined by any player except when instructions allow it. A card exiled face down has no characteristics, but the spell or ability that exiled it may allow it to be cast from exile. Unless that card is being cast face down (see rule 707.4), the card is turned face up just before the player announces that he or she is casting the spell (see rule 601.2).

109.3. An object's characteristics are name, mana cost, color, color indicator, card type, subtype, supertype, expansion symbol, rules text, abilities, power, toughness, loyalty, hand modifier, and life modifier. Objects can have some or all of these characteristics. Any other information about an object isn't a characteristic. For example, characteristics don't include whether a permanent is tapped, a spell's target, an object's owner or controller, what an Aura enchants, and so on.

Not quite sure if reinforcing what i said or am saying I was wrong. Gonna go with the first as it seems he is agreeing with me and just posting the rules. Thanks. Was in class and didn't have te time to.

[particle]

Sure. As long as there is a legal way for you to know what it is.

if bane alley broker leaves the field, you can no longer look at it, so you cant cast it from exile.

406.3. Exiled cards are, by default, kept face up and may be examined by any player at any time. Cards "exiled face down" can't be examined by any player except when instructions allow it. A card exiled face down has no characteristics, but the spell or ability that exiled it may allow it to be cast from exile. Unless that card is being cast face down (see rule 707.4), the card is turned face up just before the player announces that he or she is casting the spell (see rule 601.2).

109.3. An object's characteristics are name, mana cost, color, color indicator, card type, subtype, supertype, expansion symbol, rules text, abilities, power, toughness, loyalty, hand modifier, and life modifier. Objects can have some or all of these characteristics. Any other information about an object isn't a characteristic. For example, characteristics don't include whether a permanent is tapped, a spell's target, an object's owner or controller, what an Aura enchants, and so on.

Not quite sure if reinforcing what i said or am saying I was wrong. Gonna go with the first as it seems he is agreeing with me and just posting the rules. Thanks. Was in class and didn't have te time to.

i just wanted to make it clear that you can only cast it while u control the broker. wasnt sure if that was understood from your post.

[redwolv]

Well thank you good sir.