Elections

[MuggyWuggy]

Just making sure you don't summarize yourself incorrectly

[MuggyWuggy]

People think I'm a democrat because of my liberal ideas, but never consider my conservative stance on government influence on local life or gun control (aiming)

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

And you're an .rearexit. to jump right to thinking that I don't know what's going on and that I'm an idiot.

When you say idiotic things, it makes you look like an idiot....

He was insinuating that that was what republicans were mostly doing.  I disagree with that.

Saying, "well they don't spend every waking moment trying to screw Obama," doesn't make it better. They should be serving the people that elected them, not acting like .rearexit.s

And he was also insinuating that the democrats weren't doing the same things or overstepping what they should be doing.

There is some, but not nearly at the same level. Bush saw some resistance and was made fun of quite often, but he never saw the level of spite.

I wanted the link that showed the comparison of actual lawS to filibuster type things.

Try using words and I might be able to help you. Are you asking how many bills were filibustered?

Asking for a source of "almost everything they do is just to give the democrats a hard time" is idiotic
My point was they did it rarely, and for somewhat of a good reason, even if it could have been solved better a different way
The ratio of real laws to whatever the heck you want to call the "corruption", and you you have any idea of how confessing you are?

Do you really think republicans rarely tried to stop something just because Obama endorsed it? Take a look at quality core.

[Rass]

Wow. this turned into something else entirely lol

Yep it does. I have to give taysby credit he doesn't back down. Even when he is in the minority. 

[NovusOrbis]

I just vote for whoever I think is right for the job. Obama is poo, the elephants and asses are poo, the commies are just stupid, Rand Paul is okay but borderline insane, and the majority of people(This is a guess, no "source?" pls) don't like to make informed decisions and then complain when times are tough, failing to realize that good times breed weak people which heeds bad times which breeds good people and heeds good times.
But, I digress. I did vote as a registered voter yesterday though. I'm a real adult now!

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

For the sole reason that Obama endorsed it, 0.

Let's take a look at quality core?

[Thetrufflehunter]

All I know is that I met Jarad Huffman for Boy Scouts last Monday

[MuggyWuggy]

Sounds sketchy

[Thetrufflehunter]

Sounds sketchy

It was a whole big meeting thing. As far as I know, Jared Huffman is not s child molester.

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

For the sole reason that Obama endorsed it, 0.

Let's take a look at quality core?

Hah.  That one size fits all program that teachers hate.
Just because Obama endorsed it, right...

-it was a generally appreciated system by everyone
-Obama said he liked it
-republicans INSTANTLY start hating on it for total bullshit reasons

[MacheteMable]

Wasn't there at least one instance where a bunch of republics flat out said they wouldn't bass a bill just because Obama wanted it to pass? I remember something like that happening.

[Remillo]

I'm pretty sure there's an email or soundbite out there of Mitch McConnell explicitly stating that his party was to do everything they could to obstruct anything the Pres tries to get passed.  People sometimes say that Obama may go down as one of the worst presidents on history, but fail to remember that he's only failing to get things done because the opposition is so steadfast in making sure he CAN'T get things done.

My last thought for those on the Right wing, and then I'll bow out (since political discussions are never fun for me) - He's the frickin president.  He got elected.  Twice.  Stop being so butthurt over the fact that you lost.  We have an intelligent, moral, charismatic leader that many other countries would be overjoyed to have leading them, but lingering racism and butthurt from the incredibly selfish right stop him from showing his potential.

[MuggyWuggy]

Historically; Obama is not the worst president. He's accomplished a ton.

I'd say the worst is the pres is Buchanan, he couldn't deal with the Slavery crisis and the South succeeded from the north. Basically dividing our country in two.

Also GW Bush is a high ranking for worst president ever:

Iraq occupation part 2
Unable to capture bin laden
Katrina
Basically the loss of our economic standing, wasting money by feeding it to Halliburton.
Oh yes...
FORGOT ABOUT MEMO FROM CLINTON ADMIN ABOUT IMMINENT AL QAEDA ATTACK

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

1.  His skin color has nothing to do with it
2.  Degrees do not an intelligent person make.  It seems as if he has no idea what a budget is...
3.  Incredibly selfish?  What?

He's failing to get things done because the republicans are crunching the numbers and find that his ideas do not work.  A lot of things he proposes would be good if they actually worked, but they require going into more and more debt.

Doesn't the congress make the budget? Aren't most of his ideas good? Could Romney be better? If you said yes,yes,no, you would be correct.

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

He proposes an idea and his answer is always raise taxes or increase our national debt.  Obamacare, raise taxes and go into debt for example.
They would be good if they were feasible, but when taxes are currently being raised and america going into more and more debt, they just don't work.
Romney would have done what he could without raising taxes or going into more debt, but that is not what is being discussed.

-thinking obamacare was the original idea and not a good idea fracked* by Congress
-thinking Romney wouldn't have raised debt or taxes and that'd he be good
Why are you here?

And it does pertain. You have to compare him to other presidential possibilities.