Planeswalker Commander.

Started by LinkCelestrial, September 06, 2014, 08:50:17 PM

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LinkCelestrial

Due to the release of Planeswalker commanders in the new set, I decided to dig through the old ones and compile a list of ones that might be playable. Open for suggestions and debate. Alphabetically,

Yeses;

{Ajani Goldmane} life gain, anyone?
{Ajani, Caller of the Pride} or maybe this life gain?
{Aishiok, Nightmare Weaver} I think this would be one of the coolest ones.
{Chandra Ablaze} the middle ability is probably the best.
{Chandra Nalaar} dangerous but not immediately fatal.
{Chandra, Pyromaster} Pretty hit and miss on the ultimate but still good.
{Chandra, the Firebrand} well rounded. All solid abilities.
{Elspeth Tirel} little tentative on that plus ability...
{Garruk Relentless} I think he'd be really fun to run.
{Garruk Wildspeaker} ramp, spawn and buff. Perfect.
{Gideon Jura} come at me bro. I think he'd be a hard but fun build. That 0 ability though.
{Gideon, Champion of Justice} Sounds like a lot of fun.
{Jace Beleren} I'll give you cards then maybe you'll let me mill you. Maybe.
{Jace, Architect of Thought} I think he's a really solid choice without being broken.
{Jace, the Living Guildpact} sounds terrible on paper. Great in playtest.
{Kiora, the Crashing Wave} her emblem is slow enough, and her other two abilities are sweet.
{Liliana of the Dark Realms} black ramp to insanity.
{Liliana of the Veil} painful +1. Sweet ult.
{Liliana Vess} what's not to like?
{Nissa Revane} elf tribal would be killer. But she takes a long time to charge up.
{Ral Zarek} could be really good.
{Sarkhan Vol} I'm not sure about him.
{Tezzeret the Seeker} artifact commander.
{Tibalt, the Fiend Blooded} the {Norin the Weary} of Planeswalker Commander. Only worse.
{Xenagos, the Reveller} a solid pick all around.



MAYBE
{Ajani Vengeant} land destruction. Ewwww.
{Elspeth, Sun's Champion} middle ability. And emblem. I'm heavily leaning towards no.
{Garruk, Primal Hunter} that ult is too good.
{Jace, Memory Adept} his 0 is really good...
{Sorin, Lord of Innistrad} only on the maybes cause of that middle ability.

NO
{Ajani Steadfast} game winning ultimate.
{Ajani, Mentor of Heroes} game winning ult.
{Dack Fayden} you know those decks are gonna be broken.
{Domri Rade} game winning ultimate.
{Elspeth, Knight-Errant} see above.
{Garruk, Apex Predator} would any of his abilities be not broken?
{Garruk, Caller of Beasts} that ultimate...too good.
{Jace, the Mind Sculptor} I don't have to explain this.
{Karn Liberated} or this.
{Koth of the Hammer} game winning ultimate.
{Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker} same as Apex. Too much power.
{Nissa, Worldwaker} game winning ult.
{Sarkhan the Mad} see above.
{Sorin Markov} the -2.
{Tamiyo, the Moon Sage} infinite combo with {Omniscience}.
{Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas} hard to see a deck where his ult doesn't just win.
{Venser, the Sojourner} read the emblem.
{Vraska the Unseen} those tokens will have haste. And unblockable. And you're screwed.

Non Planeswalker Ban List;

{Doubling Season} nobody is going to be doing anything not broken with this card.

Of course the other walkers could be used. Just not as a commander. Anybody else's thoughts?

Dudecore

I would want Nicol Bolas because he gives my deck more colors.
Venser would be my choice if he weren't banned.

LinkCelestrial

Yes but Bolas is too much of a power house.

Dudecore

Yep, which is why I wanna use him. And have more colors. None of the good mono-Commander's are legal :(

None of the Ajani's should be banned. 100 Life isn't unbeatable. Why can't powerful planeswalkers be Commanders? They die easily and take several turns to go off. As it stands, none of them win if they ultimate the earliest possible turn they could.

Out of everyone, Venser emblem, Tamiyo Emblem and Karn are the only things resembling game changers. The others probably won't ever ultimate. Like {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} really isn't good in this format, I know because I cut him from 1 of my decks.

Munchlax

Also, don't focus on the final. The final will rarely be reached.

LinkCelestrial


Dudecore


Spikepit

Really liked the idea, read the column and got enthusiastic... Then something twinged in my head and realised "... wait, was Norin as a commander just put in the same category as Tibalt?! Nup, I'm out!'

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LinkCelestrial

I mean nobody guns for the guy with the Norin commander deck. I'd only attack somebody running Tibalt just to put them out of their misery. Norin is waaaaay better. He actually works with cards instead of making you throw them away.

Dudecore

Not for nothing, I can't think of 1 planeswalker I'd rather have then my Commander in my decks. The color options are limited, and some of them just aren't all that good, or not all that great to build around.

There are almost better ways to do everything they do, and they're soft in multiplayer games.

Spencer Addington

Planeswalkers shouldn't be commanders. Just my 2ยข.

rarehuntertay

Only the new Planeswalkers will be commanders because they have a static ability stating such. The old ones cannot be commanders.

blackychan1

Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 07, 2014, 07:14:26 PM
Only the new Planeswalkers will be commanders because they have a static ability stating such. The old ones cannot be commanders.
Yet...

AdamS

Quote from: blackychan1 on September 08, 2014, 03:12:14 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 07, 2014, 07:14:26 PM
Only the new Planeswalkers will be commanders because they have a static ability stating such. The old ones cannot be commanders.
Yet...
ya i want my walkers to be decks that would be great

LinkCelestrial

I know that only the new walkers are allowed. Hence why this is for casual play and I'm just spitballing.

I understand that a lot of the Walkers wouldn't make good commanders compared to what we've already got. But some of them just might work. And you always have to build a deck around them anyways.

I weird idea that went through my mind was play creatureless.