Monday, August 25th

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

The reason to break the promise is simple, the pros greatly outweigh the cons. The cons are few: some people will get upset, they broke a promise, and no one will ever trust them again (which I still say isn't legit). The pros are numerous: they can use Legacy and Vintage as a Pro Tour format (currently they can't because some countries don't have the cards, or at least that is the excuse), more players can play these formats; with new players, the formats will become more popular which is good for those currently playing it; Wizards stands to make a ridiculous amount of money, players with staples not reprinted (say {Counterbalance} or {Terminus} don't get reprints or something) see a rocketing in the value of their collection, it will give Wizards more freedom (for example, they currently can't print a 2/2 with flying and first strike for {2}{W} because it is on the reserved list), and it pleases the overwhelming majority (at least 90%) of the consumers. Honestly, I am surprised Hasbro hasn't forced them to drop it by now....

So if I made a promise to trade you cards, and but then someone else wanted them, your end is in the mail. It would be OK in your opinion to not trade those cards? It would benefit me and the other person. What if those cards skyrocketed in value for no reason, it would benefit me to not trade them. Would it help me to be known as someone who does not keep their promise? What if I had another trade and promised not to do the same?

If a 2/2 flying first strike is what the game is missing, then I don't want to play this game anymore. Design has been successfully working around not printing that card for years, and will continue.

Again, we all know the reasons why it's a good idea not to make another reserve list. Pleasing 90% of the people (an exaggerated estimate, an actual survey would have to be conducted) is not a good reason to go back on a promise. Even if it benefits Wizards. Truth be told, if they do abandon the reserve list, and go back on the promise for monetary gain - that would be a clear indication of a dishonest money grab.

And to be honest, if magic were designed today - they'd never make the dual lands. Playing multiple colors is supposed to have a drawback. Having basic land types and coming in untapped is not the philosophy the game going for, but that is for another time

Maybe I'm crazy, but I think promises have to mean something.

If you not trading the cards benefited the entire Magic community, go for it. As for everthing else, they already made them, so unless they ban them, we have to deal with them. The difference is, Im open to either solution, and youre not.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Okay, this has gone on long enough. I'm done arguing. It's obvious neither (especially the wrong one ) is will to give ground on the issue and I don't feel like bashing my head against a wall anymore.

[Munchlax]

If you're afraid of the barrier for legacy then everyone should just play Charbelcher or something that doesn't use the duels

[InfinitiveDivinity]

Okay, this has gone on long enough. I'm done arguing. It's obvious neither (especially the wrong one ) is will to give ground on the issue and I don't feel like bashing my head against a wall anymore.

Please, that horse died a long time ago.

[MuggyWuggy]

I mean you can always use your standard deck in modern and Lego
Just not deathrite for modern

[Falcon182]

Yeah, a lot of you are singing the same sad song that new players sing when they feel like they "deserve" to play legacy... Until they trade $200 worth of standard cards for a dual land, then their song changes, because they want to keep their invested value! Stop complaining about legacy. If you want to play legacy, there are decks that cost under $100. If you don't want to play one of those decks, play Modern (lol that people thing that it's a cheaper format) or just draft or play sealed forever... I'm not a "collector" but I have thousands of dollars worth of cards that I hope will at least keep their value and I've slowly been trading stuff I pull from drafts and prize packs and value trades towards duals. Anyone can do that.