Monday, August 25th

[Spikepit]

Announce to me equalled these thoughts:
•oh is that all.
•wait, more cards for EDH and more reprints!
•hang on a second... that sooooo much more money!
(Not single thought was had about standard...)

[Gorzo]

Announce to me equalled these thoughts:
•oh is that all.
•wait, more cards for EDH and more reprints!
•hang on a second... that sooooo much more money!
(Not single thought was had about standard...)

Haha my thought process exactly

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

They won't abolish or remove the reserve list. The last time it was done in 2002, they removed some effects they wanted to be able to use again, like {Clone}. Then they reprinted {Gaea's Cradle}, {Survival of the Fittest} and {Phyrexian Negator} as foils, quickly closed that loophole. They removed all the commons and uncommons the time before that. I think this by all accounts is the final form of the reprint policy.

Yes, it was a mistake at the time. All parties acknowledge that. It cannot and should not be undone.

And hopefully Magic Origins is the new player product they're adding instead of a core set each year.

was the Phyrexian negator reprint an issue?

Yeah, collectors threw a fit.

[MuggyWuggy]

If they reprinted things of value and devalued them many smaller card shops would die off

Holding into cards that rapidly fluctuate towards higher prices helps them function

[MuggyWuggy]

My lgs instantly sells revised or earlier duals, so the idea that people aren't willing to pay for legacy is far fetched IMO

[MuggyWuggy]

Also my cliques have risen in value over 1 year by almost 100%

I hold onto cards that will increase on value like foils and staples for The eternal formats

[MuggyWuggy]

I'm fine with my reserved items not reprinting

Really if you want to get into legacy, use shocks for your land base, sure it cost 2 damage to come in untapped, but you have your mana base and for a fraction of the price.

[MuggyWuggy]

I mean you can't expect a business to run solely on selling cards that are all priced under $25

[MuggyWuggy]

Depends on the card and like I mentioned all staples have jankier cousins available, they just cause you to wrack yor brain more

[Dudecore]

This mirrors my current feelings on the Reserve list: http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/rule-of-law-keeping-the-reserve-list/

A promise has to mean something. As much as it sucks, and as much as I would like to see more new players in the Legacy format, a mistake was made and should not be changed.

Magic on the other hand, just got way cooler. I can't wait for 2 blocks a year. It should slim the amount of time between returning to popular blocks, even less popular ones. I can't wait to have 19 Jace's in my EDH deck.

[MuggyWuggy]

Faster return to fetch lands

[MuggyWuggy]

Also looking at modern masters: reprints of rare staples actually increased their prices

Clique
Tarmogoyf
Sword of fire and ice

[InfinitiveDivinity]

If they reprint from or remove the super-ban reprint list, yes people will complain about the value of their cards decreasing but honestly how many people invest that heavily in magic for it's long term value? I get that yes, it's nice to crack packs and realize that you just made 20$ on a 5$ investment, but 9/10 times you trade it off for more cards of value you want. People who have original duals/etc are just holding onto the cards for the "this card is worth 200$" aspect rather than the "I can actually use this in my deck." If they reprint SOOOO many people would be able to get into formats they never would have thought they'd get into. I know if they reprinted duals...even fetchlands, I would get so into legacy or modern.  Like, while part of me would be butthurt if they reprinted a card worth a lot of money that I'm holding onto, another part of me would say...well, I should have traded it away before hand and I shouldn't have held onto it like it was the last rock at rehab.

You do realize that fetches are not on the reserved list right?

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

This mirrors my current feelings on the Reserve list: http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/rule-of-law-keeping-the-reserve-list/

Yeah, that sums up most arguments for the Reserved List, an outdated argument that hinges on, "too bad for you and the format, I like owning expensive cards "

The Reserved List should be abolished and they should print paper Legacy Masters at $25 (or so) a pop. This could lower some prices slightly, brings in millions, and give newer players a chance to own some of the ABUR lands (but keep the Power under a Reserved List).

Edit: OR take the cards that are on the Reserved List and print barely but strictly worse cards of those on the Reserved List (obviously at a lower MSRP). For example, ABUR lands that deal 1 damage to you when they ETB.

[Falcon182]

This mirrors my current feelings on the Reserve list: http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/rule-of-law-keeping-the-reserve-list/

Yeah, that sums up most arguments for the Reserved List, an outdated argument that hinges on, "too bad for you and the format, I like owning expensive cards "

The Reserved List should be abolished and they should print paper Legacy Masters at $25 (or so) a pop. This could lower some prices slightly, brings in millions, and give newer players a chance to own some of the ABUR lands (but keep the Power under a Reserved List).

Edit: OR take the cards that are on the Reserved List and print barely but strictly worse cards of those on the Reserved List (obviously at a lower MSRP). For example, ABUR lands that deal 1 damage to you when they ETB.

They already did the second thing. They're called Shock Lands.