PTQ Mill Deck Need Help

Started by Mattao19, August 01, 2014, 10:08:53 PM

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InfinitiveDivinity

Snappy all the way. He's insane.

LordJanova

Quote from: Mattao19 on August 07, 2014, 07:19:41 PM
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Quote from: Mattao19 on August 07, 2014, 06:57:39 PM
Is it reasonable that I'm considering cutting 2 mesmeric orbs just because I'm afraid of missed triggers?
Reasonable? Eh. Missed triggers can be a .witch. Especially when you realize later on that they could have won you the game. What would you even cut them for? What you decide to put in their place greatly effects whether it's worth taking them out or not.

I was thinking:
-2 Orb
-1 Mind Funeral
+3 Snapcaster
For a snappie? Hell yeah it's worth it. So much value in two mana. If you have them then I say do it.

That's what I'm thinking BUT {Mesmeric Orb} and {Snapcaster Mage} have amazing synergy!
The synergy is there but snapcaster just adds so much consistency to the deck. And you get value at instant speed. You can't beat that.

Mattao19

That's true I guess I shall play test away!!

So for the dreaded sideboard ...

I have:
2 {Rest In Peace}
For tron, Pod and GY decks

2 {Leyline of Sanctity}
For Burn as well as Rock I feel like stopping their T1 Thoughtseizes help a lot (or wait is playing a Leyline even worth it bc in a way it's just discards on T1...)

2 {Ensnaring Bridge}
Any aggro creature strategy

3 {Disenchant}
Stupid Blood Moon and also for Affinity

1 {Crypt Incursion}
Any creature matchup

2 {Devour Flesh}???
Idk what to expect and it could be worth it vs Bogle

1 {Path to Exile}
Any creature matchup

2 what spell? {Dispel}
Against Control mostly

This is just a start so please offer advice.

Ekann1

{Celestial flare} over devour flesh if you can manage the WW.

About Orb: if you think it's good enough, play it. Enough playtesting will get you to remember your triggers and you should be fine.

Keep in mind it may be hard to get white mana for the disenchant if they blood moon you... But I guess you could float mana in response. Never mind that then.

Mattao19

Quote from: E.kann1 on August 08, 2014, 07:13:47 AM
{Celestial flare} over devour flesh if you can manage the WW.

About Orb: if you think it's good enough, play it. Enough playtesting will get you to remember your triggers and you should be fine.

Keep in mind it may be hard to get white mana for the disenchant if they blood moon you... But I guess you could float mana in response. Never mind that then.

Dbl. {W} is a pain but ill try it. Also Blood Moon just wrecks me anyway you slice it so if I play Red burn I make sure I fetch out a basic Plains with one of my 4 {W} fetches

Mattao19

I have a ? If I am playing a GY themed deck say dredge or loam. I SB in {Rest In Peace} {Surgical Extraction} but do I SB out {Crypt Incursion} and {Visions of Beyobd} bc they don't work at all together! Or do I just want as much GY hate as possible?

Mattao19

Quote from: Taysby on August 13, 2014, 09:18:30 PM
Yeah, side them out.

Actually also vs Tron. Like I need GY hate and what happens if I don't draw RIP? I need backup!! But if I do draw it then crypt is just a dead card

InfinitiveDivinity

You need {Trapmaker's Snare} and {Ravenous Trap} 😉
Haha but I'd seriously consider running at least a couple copies of {Trickbind}, it makes Emmy permanently stay in the gy, and it can stop Kiki/Splinter combos, make them {Wasteland} themselves with fetches and lose a life. There are also a ton of other uses for it, such as making a Karn ulty (or any Planeswalker activation) do nothing and still use loyalty counters, stop an {Eternal Witness} or a {Loaming Shaman}, (A rare but super techy card that just wrecks us) it's just a very good card.

Mattao19

Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on August 13, 2014, 11:42:35 PM
You need {Trapmaker's Snare} and {Ravenous Trap} 😉
Haha but I'd seriously consider running at least a couple copies of {Trickbind}, it makes Emmy permanently stay in the gy, and it can stop Kiki/Splinter combos, make them {Wasteland} themselves with fetches and lose a life. There are also a ton of other uses for it, such as making a Karn ulty (or any Planeswalker activation) do nothing and still use loyalty counters, stop an {Eternal Witness} or a {Loaming Shaman}, (A rare but super techy card that just wrecks us) it's just a very good card.

I've really been considering trick bind!! I just don't know where it fits!

InfinitiveDivinity

Quote from: Mattao19 on August 14, 2014, 12:53:46 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on August 13, 2014, 11:42:35 PM
You need {Trapmaker's Snare} and {Ravenous Trap} 😉
Haha but I'd seriously consider running at least a couple copies of {Trickbind}, it makes Emmy permanently stay in the gy, and it can stop Kiki/Splinter combos, make them {Wasteland} themselves with fetches and lose a life. There are also a ton of other uses for it, such as making a Karn ulty (or any Planeswalker activation) do nothing and still use loyalty counters, stop an {Eternal Witness} or a {Loaming Shaman}, (A rare but super techy card that just wrecks us) it's just a very good card.

I've really been considering trick bind!! I just don't know where it fits!
Make room for it in that sideboard! It'll come in handy waaaay more often than you realize, and makes control a fun matchup. "Snappy? Yeah he's good, he's just gonna be a dude though. Oh yeah, same with that Clique. Er, let's go ahead and not animate that Collonade..." It can get pretty hilarious. 😄

Hunteroffire9

This deck is sooo nasty. Being able to kill you then surg extract is great, and it even has a ancestral recall! Soo good

Mattao19

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on August 14, 2014, 10:33:31 AM
This deck is sooo nasty. Being able to kill you then surg extract is great, and it even has a ancestral recall! Soo good

Lol thanks but tbh that game I just got lucky Game 1 vs Loam is not a good matchup but that game I happened to draw a surgical a crypt incursion and a Snapcaster aka all they GY hate I have in my main board lol

Mattao19

Quote from: Taysby on August 14, 2014, 01:00:09 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 13, 2014, 10:55:41 PM
Quote from: Taysby on August 13, 2014, 09:18:30 PM
Yeah, side them out.

Actually also vs Tron. Like I need GY hate and what happens if I don't draw RIP? I need backup!! But if I do draw it then crypt is just a dead card

If you side out mill to fit in gy hate, then you won't be able to mill them.  It's just too much stuff going on at once.

My GY hate is an additional {Surgical Extraction} which last time I checked wrecks Tron uhh ill name {Urzas Tower} lol have fun having non-indestructible {Darksteel Citadels} lol but ya I rarely take out mill ill take out {Serum Visions} first then other filler but I always have my 12 card shell of milltastic cards!

Anoobass

I know this is old, but would {erase} be a better card, or is the instant + artifact option worth the extra mana?

Mattao19

Quote from: Anoobass on August 23, 2014, 11:18:46 PM
I know this is old, but would {erase} be a better card, or is the instant + artifact option worth the extra mana?

Erase is an instant BUT it doesn't hit:

1. Pod
2. Any Affinity card
3. Batterskull