ObamaCare fraud

[Mlerner12]

Very few people are not ok with the currect system.  There are some who want to change it, but it's not like they think the current system is the sum of the earth, and capitalism is the most sucky thing ever, etc.

If you mean the American system, a lot of people are unhappy with it... Way more than 10%.

[Mlerner12]

Do you get my point though?  the vast majority doesn't think it's the scum of the earth.  As opposed to socialism, which a lot more people hate than the current system.

Not really. A pretty good amount dislike capitalism, and people don't think socialism is the scum of the earth.

[Mlerner12]

People like anarchy and systems like North Koreas less

[Mlerner12]

excatly.  so we should go to something people like less because of a couple of exceptions with the current system?  dafuq is this logic?

That's not what I'm saying. How is that at all what I'm saying?

[Mlerner12]

The current system needs to be fixed, so lets head in the socialism system with high taxes on the rich, public healthcare, etc.

Is that ever what I said? No.

[Mlerner12]

You are advocating for changing the current system with public healthcare.  ObamaCare.  That raises the taxes on the rich so they won't be "selfish" and help the poor people.  That is what you've been saying, if not in those exact words.

No. That's not what I'm saying or agree with beside carols.

[Mlerner12]

So you don't think government should provide healthcare?

It should. Just not the way Obamacare does it.

[Rass]

Very few people are not ok with the currect system.  There are some who want to change it, but it's not like they think the current system is the sum of the earth, and capitalism is the most sucky thing ever, etc.

Are you kidding me?  Go to any factory worker or blue collar .poo. even some white collar workers. Ask them. The reason why you don't hear that this system isn't working is that is cost money to be televised or put on the radio. Do you understand it takes money to make money.

[Rass]

Yes I do.  I plan on opening a business.  I know that stuff.  Anyone can do it if they set their mind to it, or they could be happy with their 70k a year jobs, or whatever.

And by hate, I mean think it's the devil spawn.  Vey few people think it's that bad.  There is a larger portion that thinks it could use some change, but are generally ok with it.

Sure 70k job would be nice. But not everyone can just get one. Why do you think all these employees  were trying to do walk outs at fast food restaurants. 70k in major cities (New York, Chicago, San Diego ) really doesn't get you that far. Look at the average median income. http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/17/news/economy/poverty-income/ that off sets the one person who make 5o million to how many people who only make 30k. Look at CEO's that get severance pay in the millions but they will just lay off the common worker and they have to fight to get unemployment. http://money.cnn.com/2014/05/19/news/companies/target-ceo-pay/ 

[Xaol]

If someone plans to flip burgers for a living,they need to reevaluate their life.

This may be the most disgustingly ignorant comment I have ever seen in my years on the internet, ever. Taysby, while I normally do not agree with your political ideas, I can respect your opinions. However, such an ignorant statement like the one above I cannot respect or pretend to pass off. Did you ever think that there are people less fortunate than you who would love to have a job, even something as base as flipping burgers for minimum wage? News flash: there are millions.

Disappointed by that statement, Taysby.

[MuggyWuggy]

What if all your community offered as work and advancement was that?

[MuggyWuggy]

Not everyone grows up a kid educated by a decent education system in the suburbs. You can't blame someone for being born into poverty

[Xaol]

Or getting a different job where you can work up.

Sadly we don't live in a world where the disenfranchised get to pick and choose jobs so flippantly. That's how our system works, for better or for worse. Sorry to burst your bubble there Taysby.

[MuggyWuggy]

Hey rice plantation worker in Asia, should've went to school for Wall Street

[Rass]

By blue color, I assumed you didn't mean mcdonalds.  If someone plans to flip burgers for a living,they need to reevaluate their life.

See before people working at "fast food" restaurants could make a decent living. Look at all the diners that were on Route 66. The owners cared about there employees. Then the 80's cam and greed became good.

Now we need people to flip burgers, pick up trash, bag groceries. Why can't they make a decent living? I'm not saying pay them a 100k a year but why not enough money and health care to raise a family. If more businesses had to give health care Obamacare would be irreverent. But to make more money for CEO's they keep cutting benefits from the guys on the bottom.