Nissa Worldwaker Discussion

Started by Mattao19, July 18, 2014, 03:38:56 PM

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lotrwk

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Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 18, 2014, 04:56:30 PM
Quote from: CrackaLacka on July 18, 2014, 04:40:34 PM
Bad until rotation. While verdict is in the format, her only use is ramp. She won't be able to protect herself so long as there's a wrath in standard.
One bad matchup doesnt eliminate a deck entirely. Look at hexproof. Wraths destroy that deck, but it is still top tier
Ok, more reasons. Most decks can race a nissa, her lands die to removal so not only does she not protect herself very well, she makes your lands vulnerable, 5 is a place where monsters decks won't want to have a planeswalker as me has her, in bant she can only help if you rev main phase. Shea bad in the following matchups; monsters, control, any aggro deck, mono black, and burn...

Also, hexproof has ways to protect from a verdict. Hexproof is good in way more matchups than nissa is...

Tl;dr, nissa is bad

Gocougs509

Quote from: CrackaLacka on July 18, 2014, 10:58:50 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 18, 2014, 04:56:30 PM
Quote from: CrackaLacka on July 18, 2014, 04:40:34 PM
Bad until rotation. While verdict is in the format, her only use is ramp. She won't be able to protect herself so long as there's a wrath in standard.
One bad matchup doesnt eliminate a deck entirely. Look at hexproof. Wraths destroy that deck, but it is still top tier
Ok, more reasons. Most decks can race a nissa, her lands die to removal so not only does she not protect herself very well, she makes your lands vulnerable, 5 is a place where monsters decks won't want to have a planeswalker as me has her, in bant she can only help if you rev main phase. Shea bad in the following matchups; monsters, control, any aggro deck, mono black, and burn...

Is losing one or two lands really that big of deal when she ramps you by up to four extra mana? I mean maybe if they have a way to kill the lands AND her, but that doesn't seem like i would happen all that often.

DimirOverlord1300

I think she's pretty good, but nowhere near as good as people seem to think she is ($40!? Seriously!?). She'll see play in standard, but not outside of a select few decks (3-4 tops).

NovusOrbis

Quote from: Mattao19 on July 18, 2014, 08:05:35 PM
Well she's an awful creature bc she does to every removal in the format. D Blade Ult Price Miz Mortars ... But I'm sorry I'm still not sold like you
Dies to removal is not a valid reason not to play a card :p

LinkCelestrial

I think she'll be fantastic. I'm very concerned about getting lands removed, but you're playing green, and better the lands than her or you. I think she'll really shine in mono green EDH. Especially if you're playing Planeswalker EDH. In my books it's a Planeswalker that doesn't suck like Tibalt, so it's good. If it wasn't counterable it'd be too good.

jonrox3

I was playing on untap earlier today against someone playing nissa. She is a force to he reckoned with. The person used her to chored into hornet queen which made my fliers pretty much useless.

Btw she is difficult to deal with

Hunteroffire9

Good planeswalkers overpriced;)