Commander: Revised Edition

Started by Dudecore, July 14, 2014, 12:16:42 AM

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xStrayKnightx

Quote from: Dudecore on November 19, 2014, 08:14:50 AM
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on November 19, 2014, 07:56:49 AM
What's the deal with off-colour dual lands or hybrid cards? Can I have a {Gruul Turf} or {Deathrite Shaman} in my Kaalia deck?

Yep. Hybrid is allowed and you can have {Gruul Turf} but half of it would produce colorless mana.
Thank ye kindly, Sir Dudecore.

Dudecore

Quote from: particle on November 19, 2014, 09:20:59 AM
unban {yawgmoth's bargain}/ ban {necropotence}? they are almost the same card, except necro is much cheaper at 3 mana and forces you to discard to exile.

Yawg gives you the card right away. It's as broken, if not more then {Griselbrand}. {Necropotence} has you wait till your endstep, where unless it's an instant, you can't do anythinG

the_intelligentleman

Hey what about the {Derevi, Imperial Tactitian} or {Uril, The Miststalker}. Both are pretty broken as commanders.

Dudecore

Quote from: the_intelligentleman on November 19, 2014, 05:52:01 PM
Hey what about the {Derevi, Imperial Tactitian} or {Uril, The Miststalker}. Both are pretty broken as commanders.

Not until we can be absolutely certain they are broken. Individual commanders are a sore spot for me, because they can all technically be broken. Uril has been nerfed by {Arcane Lighthouse}, and if it were up to me I would ban every card Wizards has designed for the format. But it's not up to me, we need to discuss this as a group.

DimirOverlord1300

Quote from: the_intelligentleman on November 19, 2014, 05:52:01 PM
Hey what about the {Derevi, Imperial Tactitian} or {Uril, The Miststalker}. Both are pretty broken as commanders.
First thing. Uril isn't broken. Like, at all. He's good. So's krenko. So's oloro. So's Edric. The list goes on and on. But he's fragile as balls, and gets his butt kicked with the right answers. Derevi you can make a case for much more readily. But derevi also has serious problems with wipes. If a deck is excessively resilient then yeah, ban it. But if a deck is over-reliant on certain things, it's not that good.

the_intelligentleman

Quote from: Dudecore on November 19, 2014, 06:06:58 PM
Quote from: the_intelligentleman on November 19, 2014, 05:52:01 PM
Hey what about the {Derevi, Imperial Tactitian} or {Uril, The Miststalker}. Both are pretty broken as commanders.

Not until we can be absolutely certain they are broken. Individual commanders are a sore spot for me, because they can all technically be broken. Uril has been nerfed by {Arcane Lighthouse}, and if it were up to me I would ban every card Wizards has designed for the format. But it's not up to me, we need to discuss this as a group.

Well what about anders such as {Nekusar, The Mindrazer}? He's a fair card, and promotes interesting decks that was created by wizards.

Kaalia with haste

Quote from: the_intelligentleman on November 19, 2014, 05:52:01 PM
Hey what about the {Derevi, Imperial Tactitian} or {Uril, The Miststalker}. Both are pretty broken as commanders.
Just because you don't like hexproof, doesn't mean Uril is broken.

Dudecore

My gripe with Wizards designing cards is that they design the most obvious, build-around-me cards that are all upside. I don't believe a powerful creatures drawback should be its converted mana cost. Cards like {Kaalia of the Vast}, while I'm sure there are creative versions, amounts to jamming Angels, Dragons and Demons with insane EtB effects into a deck that cheats them out early.

They also have the annoying habit of skewing the power level too far in one direction by basically printing format all-stars and homogeneous card choices. In addition to violating the color pie several times in a very short period of time. They've been making Commander products for 3 years and have each year violated the limits of what a color can do.

Not a fan. I wish they'd leave the format alone and allow players to find their own cards. Commander has some of the most experienced players in the world playing it, we're capable of building cool decks without needing {Animar, Soul of Elements}

MuggyWuggy

Commanders should naturally synergize with the cards in the deck of be apart of some flavor.

My favorite decks are built with flavor and fun, rather than spiky dominance.

Spikepit

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Codester1991

I'm not sure if this has been brought up or not but I don't agree with the infect rule on commander being only 10. If the life is double then I believe infect should as well be doubled.. But that's just my opinion.

xStrayKnightx

My friends and I always bump Infect damage to 20, but I've heard that it's 15 "officially".

Codester1991

Quote from: xStrayKnightx on November 21, 2014, 05:49:54 AM
My friends and I always bump Infect damage to 20, but I've heard that it's 15 "officially".

On MTGO I was playing commander and lost due to 10 damage infect to someone and at the time i thought it was 15 or 20 but I was wrong lol

Dudecore

It's 10. We would want to bump that to 15.