Khans of Tarkir (Speculations and Spoilers)

[MuggyWuggy]

5.99 presales.... Ugh

[Dudecore]

$6 is probably a fair price. I mean, what was {Heroes Downfall} at? Like $15 at one time. This is better, just more mana intensive, so it will be played less.

[cltrn81]

http://www.mtgsalvation.com/cards/khans-of-tarkir/23385-utter-end

Near Vindicate

Will get ridiculously expensive.
Must preorder all of them!

Might be better. Exile and instant speed. Why couldn't they have put 1 of these cards into Theros? That set seems weaker the more Khans gets spoiled.

I can't see it being that much over $10, {Vindicate} is super strong and printed way less, and it's only $20. This card is going to be sick however. Can't wait to get one.

I was close when I said potential {vindicate} reprint

For 4 mana they could have made it "target permanent" IMO

[Falcon182]

Also instant speed & exile. Kinda odd that it's exile not destroy.

[Dudecore]

Its just good enough to see play, without being completely broken. Design and Development have been getting better at finding that line with new cards. Like {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx}, right on that edge.

New design philosophy abhors land destruction. Which is why it is non-land.

[cltrn81]

Its just good enough to see play, without being completely broken. Design and Development have been getting better at finding that line with new cards. Like {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx}, right on that edge.

New design philosophy abhors land destruction. Which is why it is non-land.

I understand they don't like land destruction but man-lands are a thing!  I think at 4 mana it would not be OP if it was target permanent

[cltrn81]

How would you like to miss your T4 land drop and they don't and they kill one of your lands taking you to 2 lands against their 4?

I don't like looking at {mutavault} or {celestial collonade} while chilling with an {abrupt decay} in my hand either.

If you get a fourth straight land drop than you deserve to cast something cool

[LinkCelestrial]

How would you like to miss your T4 land drop and they don't and they kill one of your lands taking you to 2 lands against their 4?

I don't like looking at {mutavault} or {celestial collonade} while chilling with an {abrupt decay} in my hand either.

Burn spell don't care.

[InfinitiveDivinity]

$6 is probably a fair price. I mean, what was {Heroes Downfall} at? Like $15 at one time. This is better, just more mana intensive, so it will be played less.

But this is a modern legal vindicate.  That'll probably make it worth more.

It also costs 500 mana

[Destore117]

So. Probably missed it but has there been the {R}{W}{B} ascendancy card spoiled?

[Destore117]

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Ah...wish it wasn't a 1/1 red goblin. Wish it could be like a 1/1 RWB raider or something.

Mainly cuz I wanna splash red in my Orzhov....OMG....HOWL OF THE HORDE + Discard spells...

[The1337Magician]

[Destore117]

This one. I like. {Honor of the Pure} says hello

[Gocougs509]

We're getting greedy

{Vindicate} probably is too good for Standard. It doesn't help that {Thoughtseize} is in Standard already.

A non land version on vindicate might be ok

Pretty much hit the nail on the head here. And dudcore got shown up...lol Utter End too nice

[Munchlax]

This one. I like. {Honor of the Pure} says hello

{Athreos god of passage} just got good