Khans of Tarkir (Speculations and Spoilers)

Started by Xaol, May 18, 2014, 02:43:46 PM

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Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 17, 2014, 07:02:07 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on August 17, 2014, 05:28:08 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 17, 2014, 03:26:58 PM

Burn does have an advantage, but it also has a choice between spells like {Heat Ray} and focusing on creature control or spells like {Stoke the Flames} for too the face damage. Currently Boros burn seems to be the best in standard and it hasn't really been doing well. (Compared to say, mono black devotion). Straight up kills spells are always better than burn spells. Some creatures survive {Searing Spear}. {Murder} kills all.

but also, {searing spear} can be the last three point of damage to kill an opponent, whereas {murder} can never never do that. so kill spells and burn spells both have their place but neither is "always better."
edit: damn quoting jocking my style.

DirtyMustachio

What about a card that does something to the shared enemy like in dega a card that's something like

{R} {B}
Instant
Destroy target white creature
Or deal 3 damage to target player
(It would probably be to good if I added you may do both if both sources were paid to play this card)

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: GlowackAttack on August 18, 2014, 10:27:06 AM
Well that sounds like a really cool card, I think the set is gonna be more along the lines of the Alara block. So it would be hating out the other colors

{R}{B}
Destroy target green or blue creature, or deal 3 damage to target player.

I could imagine seeing some things like {Batwing Brune} however.
Thats a really cool idea. Never a dead card and in the right circumstances, its a great card. Id maindeck that, but it feels balanced.

DirtyMustachio

Three colors would be to many but 1 or 2 I could see

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

We have the Jeskai ability, it was leaked along with the Speed vs Cunning decklist ( http://mtg-realm.blogspot.ca/2014/08/speed-vs-cunning-leak.html?m=1 )



Edit: if we get cheap Prowess cards, Heroic/Prowess decks could be really good.

DirtyMustachio


5/9 Turtle


Distriimuir

Uncommon tri lands confirmed in the speed vs cunning decks, most likely the prints for khans.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: GlowackAttack on August 18, 2014, 04:02:21 PM
Slightly disappointed with Prowess. Yes it can be effective, but isn't anything spectacular. It seems like it has strong roots from exalted
When I first saw it I though it said counters and got too excited. Then I realized it was just a temporary buff and that it would be too good if it were counters, it would be heroic on crack.

Dudecore

It just promote more creature strategies, not interested. It'll probably good for turning things sideways, but it doesn't feel blue and doesn't resemble control.

Mattao19

I heard Junk is supposed to be control is this true?

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Mattao19 on August 18, 2014, 06:56:38 PM
I heard Junk is supposed to be control is this true?
Yes, but we dont know to what extent. Abzan supposedly has the "long game mechanic" and they are all about endurance, I personally think it will be more of a midrangey ability like Persist.

xStrayKnightx

I love the idea of a game being more creature reliant. It actually gives people like me, who don't play control, a fair chance at a win.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Dudecore on August 18, 2014, 06:50:53 PM
It just promote more creature strategies, not interested. It'll probably good for turning things sideways, but it doesn't feel blue and doesn't resemble control.
WoTC has been looking for a creature ability for blue that isnt flying or hexproof so they can balance cycles. This may be it.

Quote from: xStrayKnightx on August 18, 2014, 07:09:26 PM
I love the idea of a game being more creature reliant. It actually gives people like me, who don't play control, a fair chance at a win.
I like creature decks too, but as a control player, I hope Khans maintains the Rock-Paper-Scissors balance of Magic, maybe Sultai wilk be the control deck.

Dudecore

I know they're looking for a combat keyword, which this isn't. It's a precombat trick. Death touch, Trample, first strike and Vigilance alter combat. I'd take a pass on this as the evergreen combat keyword for blue, and the name isn't blue. Prowess in combat isn't something blue is known for.