What are the most HATED cards?

Started by JordanCirk, April 23, 2014, 01:39:01 PM

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Gocougs509

Quote from: Silent1236 on June 06, 2014, 12:03:35 AM
Quote from: Gocougs509 on June 05, 2014, 11:32:55 PM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on June 05, 2014, 11:08:44 PM
Quote from: Gocougs509 on June 05, 2014, 09:10:45 PM
{cyclonic rift} trashes people 95% of the time...

I'd say 85-90% to account for the amount of counterspells I see both online and off.. Definitely a bomb though.

Yeah that's probably more accurate, but eitet way I would not question a banning on that card!

Banning {Cyclonic Rift}?  That seems a little over-the-top.  Sure, rift is good, but most of the time, your opponent will be able to sort of come back from it.  It's not like you say "Overload {Cyclonic Rift}" and your opponent just scoops.  I don't think banning it would be all that necessary.

Come back from it? When your opponent plays it at the end of YOUR turn, then gets to take a turn (quite possibly more then one) of their own, when exactly are you supposed to come back from it? Lol I never thought I'd actually find someone to argue that {cyclonic rift} is a fair edh card!

PrEZchoICE1

Quote from: Gocougs509 on June 06, 2014, 01:11:37 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on June 06, 2014, 12:03:35 AM
Quote from: Gocougs509 on June 05, 2014, 11:32:55 PM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on June 05, 2014, 11:08:44 PM
Quote from: Gocougs509 on June 05, 2014, 09:10:45 PM
{cyclonic rift} trashes people 95% of the time...

I'd say 85-90% to account for the amount of counterspells I see both online and off.. Definitely a bomb though.

Yeah that's probably more accurate, but eitet way I would not question a banning on that card!

Banning {Cyclonic Rift}?  That seems a little over-the-top.  Sure, rift is good, but most of the time, your opponent will be able to sort of come back from it.  It's not like you say "Overload {Cyclonic Rift}" and your opponent just scoops.  I don't think banning it would be all that necessary.

Come back from it? When your opponent plays it at the end of YOUR turn, then gets to take a turn (quite possibly more then one) of their own, when exactly are you supposed to come back from it? Lol I never thought I'd actually find someone to argue that {cyclonic rift} is a fair edh card!
I wouldnt complain if they officially banned it, a pretty good case would need to be made though I would imagine. I run it in Derevi but Evacuation can be just as effective, in the same spot. I understand Rift is a better card hence why I run it, but if it were banned I wouldnt gripe, similiar to if they officially banned derevi.

Gocougs509

It it were a sorcery OR if it returned ALL nonland permanents, it would be fair. But that instant speed is just too much. Blue is already (arguably of course) the best color in edh, it has the power to take lots of extra turns. It shlouldn't have a card like {cyclonic rift} if you ask me. So to relate to the topic of this thread, {cyclonic rift} might be my most hated card atm

PrEZchoICE1

Yeah now that we're back on topic {Hokori, Dust Drinker} is my most hated card right now Id have to say but I dont think it deserves to be bant

InfinitiveDivinity

Quote from: Gocougs509 on June 06, 2014, 01:58:57 AM
It it were a sorcery OR if it returned ALL nonland permanents, it would be fair. But that instant speed is just too much. Blue is already (arguably of course) the best color in edh, it has the power to take lots of extra turns. It shlouldn't have a card like {cyclonic rift} if you ask me. So to relate to the topic of this thread, {cyclonic rift} might be my most hated card atm
I like seeing Rift =] Usually means I get to slam down Gary again.

Remillo

Quote from: Silent1236 on June 06, 2014, 12:03:35 AMBanning {Cyclonic Rift}?  That seems a little over-the-top.  Sure, rift is good, but most of the time, your opponent will be able to sort of come back from it.  It's not like you say "Overload {Cyclonic Rift}" and your opponent just scoops.  I don't think banning it would be all that necessary.

It's a really powerful and versatile card.  You either stop a problem permanent from staying on the board, or you rift the world and kill everyone.  I see it in the same way I see things like Armageddon: Using it to clench a win is perfectly fine.  Card's amazing and totally busted, but within reason.

Zellius

{Primal surge} in a r/g/x deck that can give haste to the whole library and ko every one playing same withe {deadeye navigator} and any EbT effect

Gocougs509

Quote from: Zellius on June 06, 2014, 08:45:13 AM
{Primal surge} in a r/g/x deck that can give haste to the whole library and ko every one playing same withe {deadeye navigator} and any EbT effect

Yeah but in order to effectively run a {primal surge} you have to run hardly any instants/sorceries, and that massively hinders edh decks

InfinitiveDivinity

Quote from: Gocougs509 on June 06, 2014, 02:49:02 PM
Quote from: Zellius on June 06, 2014, 08:45:13 AM
{Primal surge} in a r/g/x deck that can give haste to the whole library and ko every one playing same withe {deadeye navigator} and any EbT effect

Yeah but in order to effectively run a {primal surge} you have to run hardly any instants/sorceries, and that massively hinders edh decks
{Primal Surge} is pretty sweet with {Cream of the Crop} 😉

Gocougs509

Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on June 06, 2014, 05:06:54 PM
Quote from: Gocougs509 on June 06, 2014, 02:49:02 PM
Quote from: Zellius on June 06, 2014, 08:45:13 AM
{Primal surge} in a r/g/x deck that can give haste to the whole library and ko every one playing same withe {deadeye navigator} and any EbT effect

Yeah but in order to effectively run a {primal surge} you have to run hardly any instants/sorceries, and that massively hinders edh decks
{Primal Surge} is pretty sweet with {Cream of the Crop} 😉

Holy crap yeah it is!

InfinitiveDivinity

Quote from: Gocougs509 on June 06, 2014, 05:14:16 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on June 06, 2014, 05:06:54 PM
Quote from: Gocougs509 on June 06, 2014, 02:49:02 PM
Quote from: Zellius on June 06, 2014, 08:45:13 AM
{Primal surge} in a r/g/x deck that can give haste to the whole library and ko every one playing same withe {deadeye navigator} and any EbT effect

Yeah but in order to effectively run a {primal surge} you have to run hardly any instants/sorceries, and that massively hinders edh decks
{Primal Surge} is pretty sweet with {Cream of the Crop} 😉

Holy crap yeah it is!
One of my combos in my {Rhys, the Redeemed} EDH.

Remillo

Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on June 06, 2014, 05:06:54 PM
Quote from: Gocougs509 on June 06, 2014, 02:49:02 PM
Quote from: Zellius on June 06, 2014, 08:45:13 AM
{Primal surge} in a r/g/x deck that can give haste to the whole library and ko every one playing same withe {deadeye navigator} and any EbT effect

Yeah but in order to effectively run a {primal surge} you have to run hardly any instants/sorceries, and that massively hinders edh decks
{Primal Surge} is pretty sweet with {Cream of the Crop} 😉

Problem here is that you don't put the Cream of the Crop triggers on the stack until after Primal Surge is done resolving completely.  You don't get to set what Surge is hitting next, sorry.

Ubercharge

Lol if your deck isnt good enough to stop most of these 8+drops or doesnt run spot removal you deserve to be mad and lose (: i dont think anything should be banned besides what is already banned.. If you want stupid magic look at the french ban list its pretty dumb..

Sparkle Ninja

Quote from: Ubercharge on June 08, 2014, 10:58:41 PM
Lol if your deck isnt good enough to stop most of these 8+drops or doesnt run spot removal you deserve to be mad and lose (: i dont think anything should be banned besides what is already banned.. If you want stupid magic look at the french ban list its pretty dumb..
No it's not. It's meant to balance out 1v1 commander.

Remillo

Well, in just one evening, my utter hatred for {Prophet of Kruphix} has expanded from what I previously thought could not be expanded more.  Card just isn't fair.  Seedborn Muse is powerful enough, but when you make a strictly better one for the same cost, it's just absurd.  Over the course of this evening, three different decks completely took over the game with this one five-drop, searching for it, specifically, with things like {Birthing Pod} and {Momir Vig, Simic Visionary}.  I've never had fun in a game where someone has resolved it.