Ban List Discussion (speculation)

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Bye bye jeskai ascendacy, and treasure cruise!

I'm not sure Ascendency has to leave, but I agree with Cruise. As much as pros tried to sell Ascendency as some god, it i really just is a another toy for storm decks, the deck has been nerfed a few times before, and the the Ascendency version is really more vulnerable the all spells deck.

[Mattao19]

When's the update coming out?

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

When's the update coming out?

11 am EST tomorrow. 8am PST

[fj76ts4]

When's the update coming out?

1/19/15 11am est

[Mattao19]

When's the update coming out?

11 am EST tomorrow. 8am PST

.love.!! Now I won't sleep tn!!!!!!!! Lol

My predictions:

Vintage:
TC- Restricted (maybe)

Legacy:

TC- Banned bc when within 4 months the card sees play in 36% of decks it's kinda big

Modern:

TC- Banned see above lol

{Blood Braid Elf} unbanned idk just a hunch plus a lotta ppl are speccing it

{Golgari Grave Troll} unbanned bc it shouldn't have been banned in the first place IMO

[Z5]

Bye bye jeskai ascendacy, and treasure cruise!

I'm not sure Ascendency has to leave, but I agree with Cruise. As much as pros tried to sell Ascendency as some god, it i really just is a another toy for storm decks, the deck has been nerfed a few times before, and the the Ascendency version is really more vulnerable the all spells deck.

Ok, but it still wins consistantly on turn 2-3. IMO its the fastest deck in modern

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Bye bye jeskai ascendacy, and treasure cruise!

I'm not sure Ascendency has to leave, but I agree with Cruise. As much as pros tried to sell Ascendency as some god, it i really just is a another toy for storm decks, the deck has been nerfed a few times before, and the the Ascendency version is really more vulnerable the all spells deck.

Ok, but it still wins consistantly on turn 2-3. IMO its the fastest deck in modern

That is simply not true. It can consistently win turn 4, but it doesn't consistently win turns 2 or 3, and the deck isn't that hard to disrupt. I hasn't really placed highly at any events except for the World Championship (which was the most inbred meta ever), so there is no reason to ban it right now, except maybe because of how much time it takes to combo out (similar to the {Second Sunrise} ban).

[Z5]

Bye bye jeskai ascendacy, and treasure cruise!

I'm not sure Ascendency has to leave, but I agree with Cruise. As much as pros tried to sell Ascendency as some god, it i really just is a another toy for storm decks, the deck has been nerfed a few times before, and the the Ascendency version is really more vulnerable the all spells deck.

Ok, but it still wins consistantly on turn 2-3. IMO its the fastest deck in modern

That is simply not true. It can consistently win turn 4, but it doesn't consistently win turns 2 or 3, and the deck isn't that hard to disrupt. I hasn't really placed highly at any events except for the World Championship (which was the most inbred meta ever), so there is no reason to ban it right now, except maybe because of how much time it takes to combo out (similar to the {Second Sunrise} ban).

Oh ok, I guess your right, but if it doesn't someone will find something better to do with it.

[Z5]

If {treasure cruise} doesn't get banned, and Golgari grave troll gets unbanned, could we have a dredge, cruise deck?

[Mattao19]

If {treasure cruise} doesn't get banned, and Golgari grave troll gets unbanned, could we have a dredge, cruise deck?

Depends bc cruise wants you to exile stuff and troll needs it there .. So I doubt it

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

If {treasure cruise} doesn't get banned, and Golgari grave troll gets unbanned, could we have a dredge, cruise deck?

Depends bc cruise wants you to exile stuff and troll needs it there .. So I doubt it

I think he means using Dredge to fuel Delve, but if that were the case, people would have done it with {Stinkweed Imp}

[Mattao19]

My point is that. Of course delve + Dredge can be good but dredge decks run very few cards that are irrelevant from the GY other than lands and even lands matter bc of Loam

[Z5]

If {treasure cruise} doesn't get banned, and Golgari grave troll gets unbanned, could we have a dredge, cruise deck?

Depends bc cruise wants you to exile stuff and troll needs it there .. So I doubt it

I think he means using Dredge to fuel Delve, but if that were the case, people would have done it with {Stinkweed Imp}

Yes I do, I forgot about the other dredge cards.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Wizards screwed up. Pod, TC, and DTT are banned. {Golgari Grave Troll} is unbanned. So basically Wizards depowered the format, and gave us nothing.

[Z5]

Wizards screwed up. Pod, TC, and DTT are banned. {Golgari Grave Troll} is unbanned. So basically Wizards depowered the format, and gave us nothing.

Wait what, u must be kidding!?!