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Started by Garblefarb, April 20, 2014, 04:59:56 PM

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MisterJH

Also you clearly have no knowledge of the prescription drug problem in america either... Everything has side effects but that doesnt begin to explain the damage of a pill for every ill mentality. Many of these chemicals are simply unnatural to be in your body, much more so than marijuana. The damage it does chemically, the alters in mood perception etc are not noted but they ARE there. I know this because the american prescription drug craze where nobody taks responsibility for their life and simply takes more drugs is a HUGE topic to me as im somewhat of a health nut. So i know ive spent more time on this than you. So if you are going to listen to reason then until such time as youve taken a fair stance on prescription medication allow me to inform you of just how fucked up it is.

P.S. Im not meaning this in any negative way im legitimately trying to let you knkw that prescription drug america is not benign, it is not safe or healthy. Its a multibillion dollar industry that thrives on us being unhealthy and requiring medication to feel 'normal.'

Does that sound ok to you? An entire industry dedicated to keeping us sick so they can then regulate us, often with gross side effects?

But no, cannabis is bad.

Garblefarb

Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 09:11:43 PM
Also you clearly have no knowledge of the prescription drug problem in america either... Everything has side effects but that doesnt begin to explain the damage of a pill for every ill mentality. Many of these chemicals are simply unnatural to be in your body, much more so than marijuana. The damage it does chemically, the alters in mood perception etc are not noted but they ARE there. I know this because the american prescription drug craze where nobody taks responsibility for their life and simply takes more drugs is a HUGE topic to me as im somewhat of a health nut. So i know ive spent more time on this than you. So if you are going to listen to reason then until such time as youve taken a fair stance on prescription medication allow me to inform you of just how fucked up it is.

P.S. Im not meaning this in any negative way im legitimately trying to let you knkw that prescription drug america is not benign, it is not safe or healthy. Its a multibillion dollar industry that thrives on us being unhealthy and requiring medication to feel 'normal.'

Does that sound ok to you? An entire industry dedicated to keeping us sick so they can then regulate us, often with gross side effects?

But no, cannabis is bad.
Drugs are bad. Mmk? I see cannabis as an herb not a drug. Herbs smell good

MisterJH

Lol that was tongue in cheek if you couldnt tell

Sparkle Ninja

Quote from: Garblefarb on April 24, 2014, 09:18:25 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 09:11:43 PM
Also you clearly have no knowledge of the prescription drug problem in america either... Everything has side effects but that doesnt begin to explain the damage of a pill for every ill mentality. Many of these chemicals are simply unnatural to be in your body, much more so than marijuana. The damage it does chemically, the alters in mood perception etc are not noted but they ARE there. I know this because the american prescription drug craze where nobody taks responsibility for their life and simply takes more drugs is a HUGE topic to me as im somewhat of a health nut. So i know ive spent more time on this than you. So if you are going to listen to reason then until such time as youve taken a fair stance on prescription medication allow me to inform you of just how fucked up it is.

P.S. Im not meaning this in any negative way im legitimately trying to let you knkw that prescription drug america is not benign, it is not safe or healthy. Its a multibillion dollar industry that thrives on us being unhealthy and requiring medication to feel 'normal.'

Does that sound ok to you? An entire industry dedicated to keeping us sick so they can then regulate us, often with gross side effects?

But no, cannabis is bad.
Drugs are bad. Mmk? I see cannabis as an herb not a drug. Herbs smell good
Drug
/noun/

a medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body.


Cannabis fits under that perfectly. It may be a herb but it is also a drug

Sparkle Ninja

Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.

Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased.  Where is your proof for cannibis preventing  cancer?

Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
It was never claimed in any scientific anything that it cured cancer. Just that it calmed the people after treatments

Garblefarb

Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on April 24, 2014, 09:52:36 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.

Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased.  Where is your proof for cannibis preventing  cancer?

Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
It was never claimed in any scientific anything that it cured cancer. Just that it calmed the people after treatments
Well that's false in a way. It doesn't cure cancer nobody said that it helps treat the symptoms of cancer.

Garblefarb

Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.

Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased.  Where is your proof for cannibis preventing  cancer?

Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
Look no matter what you do putting any drug in your system is not the healthy choice. Some are worse than others clearly. Like aspirin is better than ridilin. And won't mess you up as bad, but no matter how you look at it drugs are not the way to solve our issues. And as its been pointed out mayo is a biased company that has its research funded by anti marijuana "groups" what do you expect they're going to say?

Kaworu, the Fifth Child

Quote from: Garblefarb on April 24, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.

Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased.  Where is your proof for cannibis preventing  cancer?

Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
Look no matter what you do putting any drug in your system is not the healthy choice. Some are worse than others clearly. Like aspirin is better than ridilin. And won't mess you up as bad, but no matter how you look at it drugs are not the way to solve our issues. And as its been pointed out mayo is a biased company that has its research funded by anti marijuana "groups" what do you expect they're going to say?
Did you read the first page? I take insulin. I'm fine. Without it I wouldn't be here. Drugs are not always bad.

Apathy Reactor

Quote from: Juvia, Water Woman on April 24, 2014, 10:13:37 PM
Quote from: Garblefarb on April 24, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.

Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased.  Where is your proof for cannibis preventing  cancer?

Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
Look no matter what you do putting any drug in your system is not the healthy choice. Some are worse than others clearly. Like aspirin is better than ridilin. And won't mess you up as bad, but no matter how you look at it drugs are not the way to solve our issues. And as its been pointed out mayo is a biased company that has its research funded by anti marijuana "groups" what do you expect they're going to say?
Did you read the first page? I take insulin. I'm fine. Without it I wouldn't be here. Drugs are not always bad.
I agree, my great grandfather is living proof. The guy is STILL ALIVE after all these years and takes tons of prescription drugs every day. As the oldest member of our family to ever live, I think he can attest to the good that many prescription drugs can do. Not all are good of course, it is always wise to weigh the good against the bad.

MisterJH

Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.

Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased.  Where is your proof for cannibis preventing  cancer?

Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
What? Do you understand bias? Mayo could be extremely bias. If people stopped getting sick(like maybe ate properly not of a 60% processed food diet) and exercised theyd e out of business. EVERYONE has bias, its just how close is their bias to the issue at hand

MisterJH

Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.

Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased.  Where is your proof for cannibis preventing  cancer?

Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
And not always, you can use them perfectly and still be harmed. Research 'holistic treatment' thats how you do more good than harm. Prescription drugs do more harm in many cases because it fixed people problems by force with side effects rather than addressing the roots of their problems which is the real way to do it. Diabetes? Hollistic treatment can help/cure in some cases. Cancer? Yep. Heart disease? Yep. But is hollistic medicine the first option, since its the safest and healthiest? No, because there is no money in that. Dude prescription drug companies dont give a damn about anyone, they want money and are as evil as any other corporation. The only ones who give a .poo. or ever did about helping are the ones who invented these drugs, and they were meant for people who needed them because they had no other choice. There are people who are born defective in their genes and get diabetes that way, then there are people who literally bring it upon themselves. Do they get treated differently? No. The difference? Person B could have prevented it and could potentially still help themselves. But instead they get prescription medication. How is that not monumentally fucked up? Its all about money open your eyes. Marijuana is illegal because the lumber industry wanted money. Alcohol is legal because it was making money. Cigarettes are legal cuz its a lot of money. Prescription drugs are so prevalent because money. Processed food and soda that are as addictive and unhealthy as any drug addiction are touted as safe because MONEY. OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE.

Spencer Addington

Everyone is dying, so why not enjoy life to the fullest?

Kaworu, the Fifth Child

Small note Mister... There is NO cure for type 1 diabetes and type 2 only exhsts when people are extremely obese, excercuse and good food fix that one.

Spencer Addington

Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 10:49:34 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on April 24, 2014, 10:48:15 PM
Everyone is dying, so why not enjoy life to the fullest?

So you live an extra 20 years before you die playing magic...
So since I smoke once a week in guaranteed to die 20 years early?

MisterJH

Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 10:46:33 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 10:37:22 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.

Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased.  Where is your proof for cannibis preventing  cancer?

Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
And not always, you can use them perfectly and still be harmed. Research 'holistic treatment' thats how you do more good than harm. Prescription drugs do more harm in many cases because it fixed people problems by force with side effects rather than addressing the roots of their problems which is the real way to do it. Diabetes? Hollistic treatment can help/cure in some cases. Cancer? Yep. Heart disease? Yep. But is hollistic medicine the first option, since its the safest and healthiest? No, because there is no money in that. Dude prescription drug companies dont give a damn about anyone, they want money and are as evil as any other corporation. The only ones who give a .poo. or ever did about helping are the ones who invented these drugs, and they were meant for people who needed them because they had no other choice. There are people who are born defective in their genes and get diabetes that way, then there are people who literally bring it upon themselves. Do they get treated differently? No. The difference? Person B could have prevented it and could potentially still help themselves. But instead they get prescription medication. How is that not monumentally fucked up? Its all about money open your eyes. Marijuana is illegal because the lumber industry wanted money. Alcohol is legal because it was making money. Cigarettes are legal cuz its a lot of money. Prescription drugs are so prevalent because money. Processed food and soda that are as addictive and unhealthy as any drug addiction are touted as safe because MONEY. OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE.

Most of the time prescription are perfectly safe.  The FDA wouldn't allow anything else.  Accidents do happen, but you need to open your eyes.  I'm talking with my dad on this and he has studied it for 30+ years!  He knows what he's talking about and I haven't seen a single source from you!  You're making stuff up like cannibis cures cancer.  I thought I might be misinformed, but when people clarified it, I realized you're full of crap.

Also, I'm glad to know people support me.  I dislike being a loner.  :P
I think your confusig me with.. Who knows. I never said cannabis cures cancer. I said there hae been studies sayig it inhibits growth. I think garblefarb is the one who made some of the more extreme claims

AND YOU REALLY THINK THE FDA DOESNT APPROVE DANGEROUS DRUGS?! How about.. Antidepressants? How about... steroids for cows that inhibit proper development of certain glands in the brain, which are illegal everywhere in the world, except US and canada because its unsafe. Dude.. You really are brainwashed. I know what the .love. im talking about. I know the FDA operates under the thumn of the food and drug industries. This isnt conspiracy theory or some secret, this is well documented .poo. that happens daily. Your very food is loaded with unsafe chemicals. If you ignore everything i say because youre very closeminded about this entire subject despite me being very open, objective and completely honest about things i know to be true, so be it. But if you honestly think the FDA has your best interest in mind, if you think your food and drugs are so safe, if you think half the .poo. you seem to think youre being lied to straight to your face. And it should piss you off man. It should really piss you off. And you cant even begin to claim im full of .poo.. Im nt even DOING DRUGS right now, im NOT biased, i have supported your points of view on MULTIPLE occassions. Just because i expect you to be willing to do some research on your own rather than providing your opinions for you does not mean i make this .poo. up. you are living a lie man, with all due respect if you knew what i knew probably your entire view would be shattered. But if youd rather not face those demon(they are ugly demons man, dont get me wrong) thats your choice. Id rather you not discredit all that i say that i know is true and call me a bullshitter however, simply because you are ignorant of the .politics. of the FDA, the .politics. of 'unbiased' studies, the pill for an ill trap of America, and countless other things. Thats MY definition of bullshit. If you refuse to take anything from what i say for whatever reason, perhaps because i refuse to provide the links for you thats youre perfectly capable of findig yourself, so be it. But say that, not that im full of bullshit. Because im not. This is one of my primary interests in the modern world, and as such i have found at least some truth behind it, such as the truth about marijuana(the truth is we have no idea of the longterm effects)
The truth of processed food and big market america
The truth about prescription medications. Instead of telling me to do research, do your own. I can guarantee ive done more than you. I havent posted one site and said 'this is where iget all my info, and i talked to my dad so those two together must know everything'

Ive referred to probably 10 different studies, documentaries, things to research, and examples of what im trying to say, just not by name. If you choose not to spend the time looking at it in depth(which i support, i already told you your viewpoint is the safest and perfectly ok) then dont man, but do NOT dare tell me im full of bullshit, cuz ive spent too much time determining bullshit and what you believe and what we live in is bullshit.
Rant complete. Thank you *bows*