Theros Orzhov combo

Started by NovusOrbis, April 15, 2014, 10:42:40 PM

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NovusOrbis

Just curious if this combo would work... {Spirit of the Labaryinth} and {Master of the Feast}
For those that haven't seen the spoiler MotF is a 1BB 5/5 flyer whose effect is "at the beginning of your upkeep, each opponent draws a card" and I'd like to know if you can prevent the double card draw by turn definition being you and your opponents' up keeps collectively, or simply each upkeep is a new turn

Splicer

Since the upkeep happens first, they draw at the upkeep but skip the draw on thier draw step.

NovusOrbis

So they would only draw one card instead?

FustyDavorite

Right. Since you drew a card during your upkeep, you would fail to draw one in your draw phase because of Spirit's ability

MisterJH

So basically darn nice synergy

NovusOrbis

Quote from: MisterJH on April 15, 2014, 11:13:31 PM
So basically darn nice synergy
Exactly what I was thinking. I can see This as a deadly combo in draft and standard!

Sardok

Quote from: MisterJH on April 15, 2014, 11:13:31 PM
So basically darn nice synergy

There is no synergy with these cards. In fact, most of the time they won't interact at all.

Your opponents would still draw a card each on your upkeep. Then on their own turns they would still draw on their draw step.

Dadforgame

Quote from: Sardok on April 15, 2014, 11:39:19 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 15, 2014, 11:13:31 PM
So basically darn nice synergy

There is no synergy with these cards. In fact, most of the time they won't interact at all.

Your opponents would still draw a card each on your upkeep. Then on their own turns they would still draw on their draw step.

^ someone didn't read anything above them

Sardok

Quote from: Dadforgame on April 16, 2014, 03:14:06 AM
Quote from: Sardok on April 15, 2014, 11:39:19 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 15, 2014, 11:13:31 PM
So basically darn nice synergy

There is no synergy with these cards. In fact, most of the time they won't interact at all.

Your opponents would still draw a card each on your upkeep. Then on their own turns they would still draw on their draw step.

^ someone didn't read anything above them

Actually, I did read everything, including what the cards actually say.

Basically the demon lets your opponents draw on your upkeep, while {Spirit of the Labyrinth} only allows one card drawn per player per turn.

Problem is, your upkeep happens on your turn. There is nothing stopping your opponents from drawing the first card during their turns.

That is why there is no combo. Your opponents are still drawing one card a turn. There is no "double card draw" to prevent in the first place.

MisterJH

Oh its during YOUR upkeep? Well nevermind then thats dumb.. Tricky WotC

Sardok

What you can do is combo the demon with a {Notion Thief}, leading to no drawback at all.

Wally

Quote from: Sardok on April 16, 2014, 11:41:51 PM
What you can do is combo the demon with a {Notion Thief}, leading to no drawback at all.

And extra cards for you :)