M15 (baseless speculation and spoilers)

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Mattao19

Quote from: blackychan1 on July 04, 2014, 12:57:30 AM
I think I'm going to play slivers standard... I have sliver edh, sliver casual, I guess that this is the last step!

Lol nice!! Except only 3 mths of playability :(

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Mattao19 on July 04, 2014, 12:56:11 AM
Quote from: blackychan1 on July 04, 2014, 12:53:15 AM
I'd love it If all slivers had that ability. So that it stacked for each sliver, (too broken?) but it seems like this sliver doesn't contribute to the adaptation idea of the other slivers.....

Trust me that sliver is amazing!! Especially for the deck that I wanna build :P
I know! That build that I had was having problems with turn 2 {Manaweft Sliver}, T2: {Abrupt Decay}, but this solves the problem...

Mattao19

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 04, 2014, 12:58:16 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 04, 2014, 12:56:11 AM
Quote from: blackychan1 on July 04, 2014, 12:53:15 AM
I'd love it If all slivers had that ability. So that it stacked for each sliver, (too broken?) but it seems like this sliver doesn't contribute to the adaptation idea of the other slivers.....

Trust me that sliver is amazing!! Especially for the deck that I wanna build :P
I know! That build that I had was having problems with turn 2 {Manaweft Sliver}, T2: {Abrupt Decay}, but this solves the problem...

Even more reason to play {Chord of Calling} in that deck!!

MuggyWuggy

Oh yeah chord of calling into megantic sliver EOT. Next turn, throw down the trample one (hope you have haste sliver )

Mattao19

Quote from: Muggywuggy on July 04, 2014, 01:06:32 AM
Oh yeah chord of calling into megantic sliver EOT. Next turn, throw down the trample one (hope you have haste sliver )

No no no!!! Swing with your slivers and {Sentinel Sliver} then they declare blocks ... THEN YOU CHORD!!

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: GlowackAttack on July 04, 2014, 01:34:47 AM
I feel like with these slivers spatters in the past two core sets WotC wants to shatter the friendships of new players getting into magic with their buddies and mass produce competitive players so they spend more money... 

Here is how:
With slivers there is always that ONE kid that will always made the ridiculous sliver deck because he thinks they are the bee's knees but everybody hates it and as a result the child is ostracized and forced down a slippery slope of becoming a Spike as he tries to win back the approval of his peers by creating a new deck, yet after feeling the sweet taste of sliver-based victory his decks are always hyper competitive because he's tasted the nectar of the Onslaught block originating gods and nothing else will satisfy his thirst.From his decks being TOO good and him only playing to win he would begin to only feel emptiness from their repeated scorn as his friends no longer want to play with him. From that resentment the sliver child felt produces a growing desire to make decks with turn 1 wins to show his dominance over those who no longer want to be his friend... No longer does he want to make decks for fun that happen to win, but ones that win at all costsand money wil be no object to him as  he fills the void inside him with cardboard crack. Hence a Spike is born, and wizards claim another soul.

I'm pretty sure that's exactly how it happens hahahaha

And also pretty sure that's why  Anakin went over to the dark side too..
This is kind of what happened to me....except it wasn't Slivers that got me, it was hexproof....

Avnger345

Can unsticky this now.. All cards released

Mattao19

Quote from: Avnger345 on July 04, 2014, 11:35:41 AM
Can unsticky this now.. All cards released

Please don't bc it's still a good place to discuss the set!

MuggyWuggy

It's not getting deleted
Set is spoiled so these threads usually get unanchored

Vindog

#669
Why is shivan dragon and djinn back?

They are classics


Avnger345

#671
Quote from: cltrn81 on July 02, 2014, 02:47:48 PM
Quote from: particle on July 02, 2014, 02:37:07 PM
this is a level 3 judge on twitter:
https://mobile.twitter.com/mtgRikipedia/status/484208247210274816
I just disagree


The Chain Veil

Legendary Artifact
At the beginning of your end step, if you didn't activate a loyalty ability of a planeswalker this turn, you lose 2 life.
, : For each planeswalker you control, you may activate one of its loyalty abilities once this turn as though none of its loyalty abilities have been activated this turn.

    For the first ability, it doesn't matter whether the planeswalker is still on the battlefield as your end step begins. If you activated one of its loyalty abilities that turn, The Chain Veil's triggered ability won't trigger.
    Because the last ability modifies the rules of the game, it affects not only planeswalkers you control when it resolves, but also planeswalkers that come under your control later in the turn.
    After the last ability resolves, you'll essentially be able to activate a loyalty ability of each planeswalker you control a total of twice during your turn. The timing rules for when you can activate loyalty abilities apply each time; it must be your main phase and the stack must be empty.
    The second loyalty ability you activate doesn't have to be the same as the first ability. For example, you could activate a planeswalker's first ability twice, or you could activate a planeswalker's first ability, then activate its second ability.
    Each additional time The Chain Veil's last ability resolves will allow you to activate a loyalty ability of each planeswalker you control an additional time. For example, if you activate The Chain Veil's last ability, untap it, then activate it again, you can activate a loyalty ability of a planeswalker you control three times that turn.


Release notes!

Can go infinite!


particle

#673
Quote from: Avnger345 on July 08, 2014, 05:05:02 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on July 02, 2014, 02:47:48 PM
Quote from: particle on July 02, 2014, 02:37:07 PM
this is a level 3 judge on twitter:
https://mobile.twitter.com/mtgRikipedia/status/484208247210274816
I just disagree


The Chain Veil

Legendary Artifact
At the beginning of your end step, if you didn't activate a loyalty ability of a planeswalker this turn, you lose 2 life.
, : For each planeswalker you control, you may activate one of its loyalty abilities once this turn as though none of its loyalty abilities have been activated this turn.

    For the first ability, it doesn't matter whether the planeswalker is still on the battlefield as your end step begins. If you activated one of its loyalty abilities that turn, The Chain Veil's triggered ability won't trigger.
    Because the last ability modifies the rules of the game, it affects not only planeswalkers you control when it resolves, but also planeswalkers that come under your control later in the turn.
    After the last ability resolves, you'll essentially be able to activate a loyalty ability of each planeswalker you control a total of twice during your turn. The timing rules for when you can activate loyalty abilities apply each time; it must be your main phase and the stack must be empty.
    The second loyalty ability you activate doesn't have to be the same as the first ability. For example, you could activate a planeswalker's first ability twice, or you could activate a planeswalker's first ability, then activate its second ability.
    Each additional time The Chain Veil's last ability resolves will allow you to activate a loyalty ability of each planeswalker you control an additional time. For example, if you activate The Chain Veil's last ability, untap it, then activate it again, you can activate a loyalty ability of a planeswalker you control three times that turn.


Release notes!

Can go infinite!
indeed it can. quite excited for it.  a few notes i was suprised at and wouldnt have assumed:

If a creature loses double strike after dealing combat damage in the first combat damage step, it won't assign combat damage in the second one.

i thought a creature that loses double strike would still deal regular damage as a vanilla creature but i guess it makes sense.

if there are two +1/+1 counters on {Chasm Skulker} and it gets three -1/-1 counters, you'll get two Squid tokens.

i would have assumed the counters would have ceased to exist and then skulker would die.

Anoobass

Just a couple questions: I have a {kiora, the crashing wave} on my BF @ 4 loyalty. 
1). If i activate {the chain veil} pre using one of her abilities, can I use the +1 and then the -5?  Or must I use the +1 first, them activate chain.

2). Should I activate the veil ability, and then use both a +1 and -5 on kiora, she then dies, and I cast another kiora, can I activate 2 abilities that turn?  Or does it only count for PWs that are on the BF when the ability resolves?

Thank you.