M15 (baseless speculation and spoilers)

Started by Arbitratur, April 15, 2014, 10:15:15 AM

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Forbidyourways

I don't know guys the wording is janky you control the walkers on there turn in which you haven't used any loyalty abilities and chain veil allows you to

rarehuntertay

Quote from: Mattao19 on July 02, 2014, 02:24:49 AM
Quote from: VQMracing on July 02, 2014, 02:21:41 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 01, 2014, 11:18:37 PM
We still have one land unspoiled, I wonder what it will be. It is something between {Darksteel Citadel} and {Llanowar Wastes} alphabetically. My money is on some sort of {Rupture Spire} or {Shimmering Grotto} variant.
{gaea's cradle} fits. Haha oh well one can dream:(

{Karakas} DOES TOO!!!
The cradle is reserved. Karakas is not

Wally

Quote from: Forbidyourways on July 02, 2014, 03:27:58 AM
I don't know guys the wording is janky you control the walkers on there turn in which you haven't used any loyalty abilities and chain veil allows you to

It's not janky, it just may not be as specific as you would like. Playing magic has an implied understanding that you understand the rules, basic timing and the stack.

The post right above yours has the rules for you. The timing is explicitly stated in there. Activating the veil on someone else's turn will not override this.

cltrn81

I have been waiting for a chain veil like card that lets you use PW abilities more than once.  Now I gotta build a super friends deck!

McAtoms

Quote from: Avnger345 on July 01, 2014, 06:01:19 PM
Quote from: McAtoms on July 01, 2014, 10:31:33 AM
Anyone else have M15 lands from the Chicago GP and notice quite a difference in the card stock? Feels thinner and a bit flimsy. Light test shows a very different pattern in the paper.

I've got a bunch of them

Have you noticed a difference in the paper or am I crazy?

Anoobass

Quote from: Noblellama on July 02, 2014, 09:38:24 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on July 02, 2014, 07:59:52 AM
I have been waiting for a chain veil like card that lets you use PW abilities more than once.  Now I gotta build a super friends deck!

Oh look, 28 planeswalkers just came in via trades, who would have thought...

Psychic, KILL THE WITCH!

MURDER HIM!

Chargingswadger

It can still only be used at sorcery speed
Update: judge says it won't work  https://twitter.com/mtgRikipedia/status/484208247210274816 (one additional activation per turn max, I suppose).

particle

Quote from: Chargingswadger on July 02, 2014, 10:06:35 AM
It can still only be used at sorcery speed
Update: judge says it won't work  https://twitter.com/mtgRikipedia/status/484208247210274816 (one additional activation per turn max, I suppose).

and only once, outside of the normal activation per turn. The important word is "once" on the card.

Avnger345

Quote from: Noblellama on July 02, 2014, 10:32:51 AM
can you untap the veil and do it again?

A judge says no cause the word once on it

InfinitiveDivinity

Quote from: Noblellama on July 02, 2014, 10:32:51 AM
can you untap the veil and do it again?
I don't see why not? It would throw an ability on the stack again that says your planeswalkers haven't done anything this turn.

InfinitiveDivinity

Quote from: Avnger345 on July 02, 2014, 10:36:52 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on July 02, 2014, 10:32:51 AM
can you untap the veil and do it again?

A judge says no cause the word once on it
Wouldn't the ability overwrite the previous ability?

particle

Quote from: Avnger345 on July 02, 2014, 10:36:52 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on July 02, 2014, 10:32:51 AM
can you untap the veil and do it again?

A judge says no cause the word once on it

yea the card saysfor each pw, you may activate a loyalty ability once each turn. would be horribly broken if you could keep activating it.

particle

Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on July 02, 2014, 10:41:37 AM
Quote from: Avnger345 on July 02, 2014, 10:36:52 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on July 02, 2014, 10:32:51 AM
can you untap the veil and do it again?

A judge says no cause the word once on it
Wouldn't the ability overwrite the previous ability?

no. its basically the same as {rootwalla}'s ability. if it was repeatable, the word once would not be in the text.

InfinitiveDivinity

Quote from: particle on July 02, 2014, 10:46:30 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on July 02, 2014, 10:41:37 AM
Quote from: Avnger345 on July 02, 2014, 10:36:52 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on July 02, 2014, 10:32:51 AM
can you untap the veil and do it again?

A judge says no cause the word once on it
Wouldn't the ability overwrite the previous ability?

no. its basically the same as {rootwalla}'s ability. if it was repeatable, the word once would not be in the text.
I just find it weird that it doesn't say activate this ability only once a turn. I guess it somewhat does.

particle

Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on July 02, 2014, 10:54:19 AM
Quote from: particle on July 02, 2014, 10:46:30 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on July 02, 2014, 10:41:37 AM
Quote from: Avnger345 on July 02, 2014, 10:36:52 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on July 02, 2014, 10:32:51 AM
can you untap the veil and do it again?

A judge says no cause the word once on it
Wouldn't the ability overwrite the previous ability?

no. its basically the same as {rootwalla}'s ability. if it was repeatable, the word once would not be in the text.
I just find it weird that it doesn't say activate this ability only once a turn. I guess it somewhat does.

i think it has to be weird wording because its breaking the once a turn pw rule.