Targeting issue

Started by Ryggrad, March 03, 2014, 06:59:26 PM

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Ryggrad

If you play {dismiss into dream} and follow it up with {archetype of imagination}, why does the ability of {archetype of imagination} not board wipe all opposing creatures? It seems to me that if the enchantment affects all opponents creatures, they should be sacrificed when the archetype drops whether it says target creature(s) or not. Anyone care to clarify?

ibtrickey

Because it is not targeting those creatures. Dimiss says they have to be targeted:)

Ryggrad

I understand that. However if all opponents creatures lose/can't gain flying, how are they not targeted then?

ibtrickey

Because it does not use the word "target", it is the same as {golgari charm} against {invisible stalker}.. The card dismiss into dreams uses the word target while the other card effects all of them so it is global so they are not destroyed.

ibtrickey

But if the card said targets then it is a different story

Ryggrad

Any suggestions on something that would work well with {dismiss into dreams}?

Rass

Quote from: Ryggrad on March 03, 2014, 07:09:46 PM
Any suggestions on something that would work well with {dismiss into dreams}?
For what format casual/standard/edh?

Ryggrad


ibtrickey

Anything that says it targets

Rass

 {Prodigal Sorcerer}.  {Pirate Ship} a few that come to mind

Ryggrad

What I was actually aiming for was something that can clear the field of creatures. So a multi targeting card.

ibtrickey

Mostly just single ones, because things like {Cyclonic Rift} get changed into "each" and do not work

Keyeto

Quote from: Ryggrad on March 03, 2014, 07:16:51 PM
What I was actually aiming for was something that can clear the field of creatures. So a multi targeting card.
Search the database for anything that targets "X creatures." Or, you can always go the {Goblin Sharpshooter} route.

Tonygrabowski4

Quote from: Ryggrad on March 03, 2014, 07:16:51 PM
What I was actually aiming for was something that can clear the field of creatures. So a multi targeting card.
{gridlock} or {Glimpse the Sun God}

MuggyWuggy

Glimpse of the sungod
{Gridlock}
{word of binding}

These help you target X creatures