Bans/Unbans

Started by Moneekahh, January 26, 2014, 12:04:29 PM

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Spencer Addington

If deathrite does get banned, what's gonna happen to its value once it rotates out of standard?

imthelolrus

Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 26, 2014, 02:39:54 PM
If deathrite does get banned, what's gonna happen to its value once it rotates out of standard?
It has a strong presence in legacy... And we all know about 4-of's in legacy :P

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

I don't think really anything will happen with the bans and unbans. Although {Deathrite Shaman} is amazing, I don't think he will be banned.

imthelolrus

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 26, 2014, 02:45:07 PM
I don't think really anything will happen with the bans and unbans. Although {Deathrite Shaman} is amazing, I don't think he will be banned.
Yeah I don't either, but it's the only thing being suggested for a ban. Unban of Bitterblossom would be a huge deal, and I feel like they will want to shake things up now that the format has shifted and we have powerful hate cards

Spencer Addington

Any chance the artifact lands like {great furnace} and the likes will be unbanned?

Spencer Addington

Quote from: Taysby on January 26, 2014, 03:12:43 PM
Not at all.  They are strictly better than basics for one, and affinity doesn't need any more speed.
Yeah... I guess I can still dream :(

Gorzo

I agree with Lolrus, {Wild Nacatl} seems like a good unbanning candidate. Zoo isn't exactly a degenerate deck, and it wouldn't hurt the format to see it again. I don't think {Golgari Grave Troll} wouldn't be a big deal to unban either. Some dredge might be nice! Maybe we'll even get to see those MM reprinted {Narcomoeba}s in some decks!

Honestly I don't see a problem with {Jace, The Mind Sculptor} in modern. There are so many answers for him now that weren't around when he got banned. He's got two blue in his cost, so he won't be in every deck. I just don't think he'd hurt the format anymore, not with all the available ways to deal with him

If anything does get banned in modern, I have a feeling it will be {Birthing Pod}. I don't want it to be banned, but it's doing a lot of things that they don't like cards to be doing, like showing up in too many different decks and making combo decks too consistent.

Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on January 26, 2014, 02:38:44 PM
Any standard bannings? Also, my LGS has been speculating the banning of Bolt. I doubt it tho.

Standard doesn't ban cards. The only time it's ever happened is in a couple of extreme cases ({Jace the mind sculptor}, {Stoneforge Mystic}/"Cawblade") when cards had completely unbalanced and decimated the entire format.

Coffee Vampire

I do not think there is any chance they would unban jacey. Printing more removal doesn't make jace any worse. It still does the same things...bounce/tempo gaining/drawing. Plus I don't really see any decent removal in modern that could deal with jace adequately, without some serious tempo loss. And the fact that he has 2 blue in his mana cost means practically nothing. Just look at {Cryptic Command}. The beat counter in modern, and nearly any deck playing blue runs 4. Jace might as well be colorless.

Phoenix X30

If jace gets unbanned will he get cheaper or more expensive?
Also hoping for unbanning of Onslaught fetches.

Gorzo

Quote from: Phoenix X30 on January 26, 2014, 04:53:43 PM
If jace gets unbanned will he get cheaper or more expensive?
Also hoping for unbanning of Onslaught fetches.

Probably more expensive.

Onslaught fetches aren't so much banned in modern as they are illegal - they were printed before 8th edition, and therefore are not allowed in the format. They would need to be reprinted in order to become legal - which many players speculate may happen soon, perhaps during a return to Zendikar.

Spencer Addington

Quote from: Gorzo on January 26, 2014, 04:58:39 PM
Quote from: Phoenix X30 on January 26, 2014, 04:53:43 PM
If jace gets unbanned will he get cheaper or more expensive?
Also hoping for unbanning of Onslaught fetches.

Probably more expensive.

Onslaught fetches aren't so much banned in modern as they are illegal - they were printed before 8th edition, and therefore are not allowed in the format. They would need to be reprinted in order to become legal - which many players speculate may happen soon, perhaps during a return to Zendikar.
Is return to zendikar confirmed?

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 26, 2014, 05:01:35 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on January 26, 2014, 04:58:39 PM
Quote from: Phoenix X30 on January 26, 2014, 04:53:43 PM
If jace gets unbanned will he get cheaper or more expensive?
Also hoping for unbanning of Onslaught fetches.

Probably more expensive.

Onslaught fetches aren't so much banned in modern as they are illegal - they were printed before 8th edition, and therefore are not allowed in the format. They would need to be reprinted in order to become legal - which many players speculate may happen soon, perhaps during a return to Zendikar.
Is return to zendikar confirmed?
No, but with Wizard's interest in the making the modern format popular and accessible, it is inevitable that they reprint the fetches.

Spencer Addington

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 26, 2014, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 26, 2014, 05:01:35 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on January 26, 2014, 04:58:39 PM
Quote from: Phoenix X30 on January 26, 2014, 04:53:43 PM
If jace gets unbanned will he get cheaper or more expensive?
Also hoping for unbanning of Onslaught fetches.

Probably more expensive.

Onslaught fetches aren't so much banned in modern as they are illegal - they were printed before 8th edition, and therefore are not allowed in the format. They would need to be reprinted in order to become legal - which many players speculate may happen soon, perhaps during a return to Zendikar.
Is return to zendikar confirmed?
No, but with Wizard's interest in the making the modern format popular and accessible, it is inevitable that they reprint the fetches.
We need return to zendikar. Zendikar is my favorite set

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: ConanEdo on January 26, 2014, 08:03:32 PM
Update: Apparently someone knows something the rest of us don't: http://www.mtgstocks.com/cards/2901
I don't think it will happen, people are just speculating. I also heard a lot of people freaking out, saying that {Bitterblosom} would be in the Modern Event deck, because people are thinking it will be Orzhov tokens.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

#29
Bannings/Unbannings for French 1v1 Commander have been announced:
    {Derevi, Empyrial Tactician} is banned as a Commander
    {Zur the Enchanter} is banned as a Commander
    {Grim Monolith} is banned
    {Natural Order }is banned
    {Oath of Druids} is banned
    {Vanishing} is unbanned