Not so fun FNM

Started by Dmreiss, January 18, 2014, 02:27:13 PM

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Dmreiss

Went to the local LGS for FNM last night.  There were three guys playing he exact same deck.  Nykthos, shocks, scrublands, Garruks, Xanagos, Domri, Polykranos, that creature that untaps everything during your opponents turns.  They were getting ready for some big tournament, IQ or something.  They took top 3.   No one else stood a chance.

I know I don't build the best decks and am. It a superstar player, but I want to at least have fun. I don't expect to win each game, but I want to feel like it was an even playing field.

So the question is, should this still bother me?  Or am I blowing it out of proportion?  Thanks.

MuggyWuggy

It gets frustrating when "teams" play a small FNM tournament as they usually will give wins and strategize to take the whole prize package together and split it.

Standard is nothing but frustration when you get pwnd, but getting pwnd allows you the opportunity to learn from your mistakes.

Playing with competitive people have made me more aware of my plays and also about calling out potential cheats/flakey players: (oh did I draw? Did I play a land?)

Just tune your homebrew deck to deal with these problems, test and balance it. Removal is great just not too much of it or you won't grab creatures to kill your opponent with.

If you're net decking....well just gotta learn to play that deck.

Steerpike

#2
I can understand being blown out of the water regularly lol.
The fact is that not everyone can approach the game on equal footing. Money is always a factor in raising your chances for success. Cards that people know kick ass just cost more. They made an investment and are profiting from it.
That being said, the pilot matters as well. Some people are just really good at making plays and all the right decisions.
If all three of them took top 3, that just goes to show that all 3 of them are capable of piloting what is sure to them now as a good deck.

Nothing too far from the criteria of any winner.

Dmreiss

I understand what you are saying, and you are right. There was just no way to be competitive in that situation.

Seeing money card after money card got old quick. Especially when you catch their mistakes, or they draw games out way longer, like adding insult to injury. Like they were not really better players, just could afford better decks.

At the end, one of them offered me their commons from their winnings which really put me off. I think they could tell I wasn't happy.

MuggyWuggy

Well they were 🍆 offering you a common.

It's very frustrating when people have more cards in their deck worth more than yours, these cards give many advantages of course, but they are able to afford them.

This is why standard is frustrating: deck idea? 40-$80 in just mana base.


Soooo dumb

Steerpike

If they weren't being explicitly rude then losing is just something that comes from competition.  Fnm IS a fight to the finish, after all. I'm not trying to apologize for anything rude they did, but winning is winning.

How many people competed there last night?

MuggyWuggy

Quote from: Steerpike on January 18, 2014, 02:45:44 PM
If they weren't being explicitly rude then losing is just something that comes from competition.

I believe the op stated they were: drew out games for overkill, and offered him a common from their pack pulls.

Who offers a  {Mending Touch} when you lose to them? A jerk

Rass

This is why I only do sealed or draft. Kinda keeps a level playing field. Except for that random time someone pulled the mythics that work well to gather. Also you may want to look at a different lgs that isn't as competitive.

Dmreiss

We had enough people for 5 rounds. Several ended up dropping so I got 1 bye. So I went 2 -3 for the night. My other matches were great; good interaction and conversation.  They just kind of ruined it for me.

Steerpike

The things I've read can be interpreted differently.

Drawing out a game isn't inherently rude. OP also mentioned they were preparing for a tournament, seems like a natural thing to want to do in order to play test.

And the whole offering commons totally depends on how they did it. Did they he try to hold back a laugh as he offered them? Or did he genuinely recognize discomfort and tried to think of some meager way he could mitigate it?

If they were deliberately trying to be rude, then sure, anger is justfied. But I'm also trying to give consolation by being devil's advocate.

Dmreiss

Quote from: Steerpike on January 18, 2014, 02:54:31 PM
The things I've read can be interpreted differently.

Drawing out a game isn't inherently rude. OP also mentioned they were preparing for a tournament, seems like a natural thing to want to do in order to play test.

And the whole offering commons totally depends on how they did it. Did they he try to hold back a laugh as he offered them? Or did he genuinely recognize discomfort and tried to think of some meager way he could mitigate it?

If they were deliberately trying to be rude, then sure, anger is justfied. But I'm also trying to give consolation by being devil's advocate.
. Drawing out the game was from inexperience. He couldn't tell he had me beat by board state and wouldn't attack.   I had to tell him.

Offering the commons just came off as rude from them. Like,"here is the crap I don't need."

MuggyWuggy

Time delay is very frustrating especially when you could go to 3 rounds and a win is always better than a draw

Rass

Quote from: Dmreiss on January 18, 2014, 02:57:41 PM
Quote from: Steerpike on January 18, 2014, 02:54:31 PM
The things I've read can be interpreted differently.

Drawing out a game isn't inherently rude. OP also mentioned they were preparing for a tournament, seems like a natural thing to want to do in order to play test.

And the whole offering commons totally depends on how they did it. Did they he try to hold back a laugh as he offered them? Or did he genuinely recognize discomfort and tried to think of some meager way he could mitigate it?

If they were deliberately trying to be rude, then sure, anger is justfied. But I'm also trying to give consolation by being devil's advocate.
. Drawing out the game was from inexperience. He couldn't tell he had me beat by board state and wouldn't attack.   I had to tell him.

Offering the commons just came off as rude from them. Like,"here is the crap I don't need."

Some people are scared if you are untapped and have cards in your hand to attack. I see this a lot in kids (early high school and younger).

MuggyWuggy


Steerpike

:/ how did you answer him when he offered?