Grisled maniac

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

Grisled maniac 60 cards, 0 sideboard 2 {Watery Grave} 3 {Verdant Catacombs} 3 {Misty Rainforest} 2 {Breeding Pool} 2 {Overgrown Tomb} 4 {Forest} 5 {Snow-Covered Swamp} 5 {Island} 26 lands 2 {Tarmogoyf} 4 {Horizon Chimera} 4 {Griselbrand} 4 {Laboratory Maniac} 3 {Deathrite Shaman} 17 creatures 2 {Time of Need} 4 {Liliana of the Veil} 2 {Abrupt Decay} 4 {Thoughtseize} 3 {Remand} 2 {Maelstrom Pulse} 17 other spells Sideboard Notes: Combo to win! Can't figure out if I want to make the rest control {Doom Blade} type stuff, draw, or what?

[abstractApathist]

I'd say to fill the rest with: {Abrupt Decay}, {Tarmagoyf}, {Liliana of the veil}, {thoughtseize}, and some {Time of need}. {Remand} is nice too

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

I'd say to fill the rest with: {Abrupt Decay}, {Tarmagoyf}, {Liliana of the veil}, {thoughtseize}, and some {Time of need}. {Remand} is nice too

Thanks!

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

Here it is 1500$ baby!

[abstractApathist]

hmmm {jace, memory adept} doesn't seem to do much... Maybe you might want to drop him for {Maelstrom pulse} and/or {spell snare}?

Edit: also, {deathrite shaman} for color fixing...

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

hmmm {jace, memory adept} doesn't seem to do much... Maybe you might want to drop him for {Maelstrom pulse} and/or {spell snare}?

Edit: also, {deathrite shaman} for color fixing...

The adept helps me search/ deck myself, but I think I'll replace him with Shaman

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

Just a thought: switch the numbers so you have 1-2 big Gris and 3-4 time of need to allow for a dark confidant? Chimera's life gain helps mitigate the lifeloss and you could use the dig.

My mana curve is too big, plus Bob doesn't draw it technically.

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

Just a thought: switch the numbers so you have 1-2 big Gris and 3-4 time of need to allow for a dark confidant? Chimera's life gain helps mitigate the lifeloss and you could use the dig.

My mana curve is too big, plus Bob doesn't draw it technically.

No, but you still gain off the regular draw. And honestly you're not off that much from Jund.

I don't want to run the average Jund, I want it to win with the combo mainly

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

Update. Combo deck, NOT Aggro!

[abstractApathist]

I would only run 2-3 Lab maniacs and try out a {maelstrom pulse} or two

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

Just a thought: switch the numbers so you have 1-2 big Gris and 3-4 time of need to allow for a dark confidant? Chimera's life gain helps mitigate the lifeloss and you could use the dig.

My mana curve is too big, plus Bob doesn't draw it technically.

No, but you still gain off the regular draw. And honestly you're not off that much from Jund.

I don't want to run the average Jund, I want it to win with the combo mainly

Sorry, I wasn't being clear. This deck has a similar mana curve to Jund, especially with fewer Gris and more time of need. I was just using it as an example to show that you probably be ok running bob to help you dig out combo pieces, especially if you have Horizon Chimera gaining you life every turn. I wasn't advocating turning this into Jund.

Edit: Well now that you've put in the Jaces and what not, never mind. I second the Pulses though.

I mistook this Jace for the 3-drop one, I'm taking him out.