Duck Dynasty

Started by Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth, December 24, 2013, 09:08:36 PM

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Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Okay, so I had to bring it up. What do you all think of Phil Robertson being suspended over his comments in GQ?

His comments on homosexuality: "It seems like, to me, a vagina -- as a man -- would be more desirable than a man's anus," Robertson told GQ. "That's just me. I'm just thinking: There's more there! She's got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I'm saying? But hey, sin: It's not logical, my man. It's just not logical."

"Everything is blurred on what's right and what's wrong. Sin becomes fine," he later added. "Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men. Don't be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers -- they won't inherit the kingdom of God. Don't deceive yourself. It's not right."


His comments on race: "I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I'm with the blacks, because we're white trash. We're going across the field.... They're singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, 'I tell you what: These doggone white people'—not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues."

The whole interview: http://www.gq.com/entertainment/television/201401/duck-dynasty-phil-robertson#ixzz2oRrkXOPX

Dudecore

A&E is a company that makes a habit of not letting their stance on Homosexuality and race issues be known. They're a private company that has the right to also terminate controversial people they no longer want to pay. As far as free speech is concerned, I don't think they should fire him. But I love the outrage that comes out when a Christian is taken to task for ignorant statements, then a war breaks lose. God forbid anyone speaks out against the troops, our history of global espionage and imperialism. That person is "unamerican" and should be killed for treason. I have no sympathy for any of the duck dynasty or the political right. Stage a protest at Chik-fil-a, another ignorant, divisive, useless enstablishment.

gtfotis

Quote from: ConanEdo on December 24, 2013, 09:32:09 PM
My personal reaction: "A redneck said something that could be construed as bigoted? Who could have seen that coming?" I don't give a .poo. and if other people don't care they should just not tune in.
This, completely! I haven't even looked into this topic, but I've heard complaints. What did people expect his views to be? 😑

Necromancerman

That's why I'm emigrating as soon as possible leave the U.S. and go somewhere my political views are accepted. Russia :)

FlickerYourOwnIdentity

Freedom of speech, freedom of religion.

They'll just suspend him because the seasons already shot, and they will not shoot for the next season for a couple months.  In that time in which he is suspended, they won't be shooting anything, and they will bring him back just in time for the next seasons shooting saying he has "learned his lesson"

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Dudecore on December 24, 2013, 09:28:24 PM
A&E is a company that makes a habit of not letting their stance on Homosexuality and race issues be known. They're a private company that has the right to also terminate controversial people they no longer want to pay. As far as free speech is concerned, I don't think they should fire him. But I love the outrage that comes out when a Christian is taken to task for ignorant statements, then a war breaks lose. God forbid anyone speaks out against the troops, our history of global espionage and imperialism. That person is "unamerican" and should be killed for treason. I have no sympathy for any of the duck dynasty or the political right. Stage a protest at Chik-fil-a, another ignorant, divisive, useless enstablishment.
I laughed do hard at this.

#noided

Quote from: Dudecore on December 24, 2013, 09:28:24 PM
A&E is a company that makes a habit of not letting their stance on Homosexuality and race issues be known. They're a private company that has the right to also terminate controversial people they no longer want to pay. As far as free speech is concerned, I don't think they should fire him. But I love the outrage that comes out when a Christian is taken to task for ignorant statements, then a war breaks lose. God forbid anyone speaks out against the troops, our history of global espionage and imperialism. That person is "unamerican" and should be killed for treason. I have no sympathy for any of the duck dynasty or the political right. Stage a protest at Chik-fil-a, another ignorant, divisive, useless enstablishment.

*tips fedora*

Apathy Reactor

It's all freedom of speech and expressing yourself until a Christian comes along, then it is bigotry... Honestly, he can feel however he wants on the subject and it is his right to and I don't believe A&E should have suspended him for telling them what he thought, but frankly, I don't even think Phil gives a .poo.

Apathy Reactor

Quote from: ConanEdo on December 24, 2013, 10:55:30 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on December 24, 2013, 10:52:30 PM
It's all freedom of speech and expressing yourself until a Christian comes along, then it is bigotry... Honestly, he can feel however he wants on the subject and it is his right to and I don't believe A&E should have suspended him for telling them what he thought, but frankly, I don't even think Phil gives a .poo.
Please, don't even try to play the persecuted Christian card in a post-colonial, western-dominated age. As for pulling him off the air, this is how capitalism works kid, he is seen as a financial liability and gets canned.
Don't talk down to me Conan, we're all friends here. And as I said, I don't really think Phil cares that he was pulled off. He most certainly doesn't need the publicity or the money.

Ertai

Quote from: Necromancerman on December 24, 2013, 09:59:42 PM
That's why I'm emigrating as soon as possible leave the U.S. and go somewhere my political views are accepted. Russia :)

Because Russia is doing wonderful.

Dudecore

Russia is a bastion of free speech.

Certain segment of the Christian base (the majority) does not approve of homosexuality. So they want to hide behind "freedom of religion" (not a right btw) and freedom of speech. It's no shocker that this is something that is testing the boundaries of free speech. It checks everything off the list: Christian persecution complex, celebrity worship, Atheist/Marxist/intellectual enemies. I'm sure most would sooner defend some morons "right" to be a bigot long before they read the constitution they believe protects that stupidity.

Ertai

Russia is a craphole dude. Sure not all, but 99.999999999% of it is a barren war zone.

MuggyWuggy

Free speech is totally allowed in Russia

Just ask Pussy Riot...oh wait

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Not to mention their strict anti-homosexuality laws.

Wingnut

Free speech is 100% allowed in America, that's one of the things that make it great. It's also the reason Phil Robertson is not in jail. He is entitled to his opinion. But on the flip side, the duck dynasty show is his job that is paid for by A&E, he said things publicly that his employer is not ok with, therefore he was fired. The same exact thing that would happen to you, me, or the next guy that said something offensive in front of customers. Yes, we have the right to free speech, but that does not make it so that we are not responsible for what comes out of our mouth. Just my view on the subject.