Planeswalkers

Started by Blazingblevins, December 24, 2013, 07:33:02 PM

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Blazingblevins

I was wondering how someone can redirect damge from me to my planeswalker? So if it is legal how and why?

Mlerner12

Instants and sorceries, you target the player and deal to the walker, very legal. Just a wizards rule I guess :P

MuggyWuggy

If you are allowed to target a player with a spell, you can target a planes walker with a spell.

Skullcrack kills :)

Blazingblevins

If someone plays , let's say {boros charm}. They can say to the player, then redirect to planeswalker?  If so is there any normal way I can prevent that?

El Bellfry Toro

Quote from: Blazingblevins on December 24, 2013, 08:25:20 PM
If someone plays , let's say {boros charm}. They can say to the player, then redirect to planeswalker?  If so is there any normal way I can prevent that?

You would need to have around 2 counterspells.
1 to counter the spell that's sending the damage.
And 1 to counter the re-direct spell.
Simplest way, but you'll need a bit of mana.

Sardok

Quote from: Blazingblevins on December 24, 2013, 08:25:20 PM
If someone plays , let's say {boros charm}. They can say to the player, then redirect to planeswalker?  If so is there any normal way I can prevent that?

You cannot counter the redirection effect. However, you can counter the {Boros Charm} or just cast a spell that prevents damage.

Note that the redirection effect does not target so it will go through effects like {Privelleged Position}.

Kaleo42

If you cant be targeted then burn spells and effects cant hit your walkers if they require a target be named.

This is one of the rules about planeswalkers. The purpose of this is to help balance their power level so you can interact with them without having creatures or {bramblecrush} type effects.

Anoobass

Effects such as {druid's deliverance} will also prevent loyalty being removed from a PW due to damage.

Kaleo42

Quote from: Anoobass on December 24, 2013, 10:18:19 PM
Effects such as {druid's deliverance} will also prevent loyalty being removed from a PW due to damage.
From it's rulings

10/1/2012   Combat damage dealt to creatures or planeswalkers you control and combat damage dealt to your teammates is not prevented.

gtfotis

Quote from: Anoobass on December 24, 2013, 10:18:19 PM
Effects such as {druid's deliverance} will also prevent loyalty being removed from a PW due to damage.
No, but {fog} and that green theros card should!

Destore117

Would {safe passage} work?

Gorzo

Quote from: Destore117 on December 24, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
Would {safe passage} work?

Nope, a Planeswalker is neither "you" nor a creature you control. It is it's own permanent type.

gtfotis

Quote from: Gorzo on December 24, 2013, 11:23:12 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on December 24, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
Would {safe passage} work?

Nope, a Planeswalker is neither "you" nor a creature you control. It is it's own permanent type.
So {fog} and {boros charm} do right? :D

Kaleo42

Quote from: gtfotis on December 24, 2013, 11:47:58 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on December 24, 2013, 11:23:12 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on December 24, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
Would {safe passage} work?

Nope, a Planeswalker is neither "you" nor a creature you control. It is it's own permanent type.
So {fog} and {boros charm} do right? :D
What does the charm do for you? Sure it saves them from {bramble crush} effects but it has no interaction with damage.

gtfotis

Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 25, 2013, 12:08:57 AM
Quote from: gtfotis on December 24, 2013, 11:47:58 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on December 24, 2013, 11:23:12 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on December 24, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
Would {safe passage} work?

Nope, a Planeswalker is neither "you" nor a creature you control. It is it's own permanent type.
So {fog} and {boros charm} do right? :D
What does the charm do for you? Sure it saves them from {bramble crush} effects but it has no interaction with damage.
Oh so it doesn't make planeswalkers indestructible through damages?