Two sided cards and flicker

Started by Butch1977, November 10, 2013, 09:12:30 AM

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Butch1977

Just a quick question. If I flicker  {Ravager of the Fells} does he re-enter the battlefield the same or does he come back as  {Huntmaster of the Fells}

Mlerner12

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I believe huntmaster becausein all zones other than the battlefield only that side is recognized so it reverts back to that side.

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Butch1977

Quote from: Mlerner12 on November 10, 2013, 09:15:53 AM
I believe huntmaster becausein all zons other than the battlefield only that side is recognized so it reverts back to that side.

Thank you.

AkiraDeLaine

What about the two-spell cards then?

Gorzo

Always sunny-side up. When a card enters the battlefield for any reason (including flicker) it is treated as if it were a brand new object. It has no memory of its former form, wether or not it was flipped, etc.


Quote from: AkiraDeLaine on November 10, 2013, 12:22:43 PM
What about the two-spell cards then?

You mean cards like {Far // Away}? You can't flicker them, since they aren't permanents.

Dudecore

He might mean Kawigama cards like {Erayo, Soratami Ascendant}. In which case I believe the side with a casting cost returns to the battlefield.

Gorzo

Quote from: Dudecore on November 10, 2013, 12:37:13 PM
He might mean Kawigama cards like {Erayo, Soratami Ascendant}. In which case I believe the side with a casting cost returns to the battlefield.

Yeah, Kamigawa flip cards follow the sunny-side up rule.

Butch1977

Well since we're talking about flicker, although it's not technically flicker, i'm trying to figure out the new whip combo.  {Whip of Erebos} brings back  {Obzedat, Ghost Council} or  {Ætherling}. Now the ghost would give the chance to exile before the sac from the whip at the end step? And the sac would drop off ætherling since it flickered?

Kaleo42