Netdecking

[Coffee Vampire]

I don't know why people are against net decking. If you think about it logically, it is exactly the same as buying an event deck. Only net decks actually win games. Hu. Zah.

[Butch1977]

Isn't net decking what we do here? We post post a deck, get opinions and fine tune? that's what a MtG community is all about. Start with an idea and ho from there. If you GTS first or ask opinions first it all comes down to net decking doesn't it?

[Ertai]

I remember when there was no FNM and when it was up and coming.

I personally do not play T2, but what erks me is when people swear by their net decks when playing casual. I cannot see the reasoning in that. How can one person claim to be an extremely good player when they take someone else's idea and wins a bunch of casual games.

Now, Dudecore, I completely understand what you're saying, and it makes tons of sense. However, it's those people who home brew and win tourneys.

Now I've been to SCG back in the late 90's and the T1.5 tourney I was in was pretty massive, and yes those decks were recognizable, but back then we never heard of them. We saw the combos, and the card orders, but not the deck names and what not. That's the major part I don't get. Maybe it's a way for kids to remember what type of combo to build. I'm not sure. Either way, MTG has evolved to a point to where it's so worldwide that every kid and their fetus brother plays, so there are bound to be people who want to win and I cannot blame them for that. I would probably do the same. They just do not remember or even know what it's like to build a deck completely from scratch using combos only used by the experienced players.

Either way, it is what it is and I will support players either way. I honestly feel I make more money now because of net deckers, so I cannot complain. Hah

Okay guys, sorry for my rant.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Isn't net decking what we do here? We post post a deck, get opinions and fine tune? that's what a MtG community is all about. Start with an idea and ho from there. If you GTS first or ask opinions first it all comes down to net decking doesn't it?

No, there is a difference. On here you create your own deck and then ask for opinions on how to make it better, Net-decking is simply copying a list from a recent Pro Tour event and using the deck as is or with a few minor tweaks to better fit your meta.

[Butch1977]

Isn't net decking what we do here? We post post a deck, get opinions and fine tune? that's what a MtG community is all about. Start with an idea and ho from there. If you GTS first or ask opinions first it all comes down to net decking doesn't it?

No, there is a difference. On here you create your own deck and then ask for opinions on how to make it better, Net-decking is simply copying a list from a recent Pro Tour event and using the deck as is or with a few minor tweaks to better fit your meta.

I mean this. Someone sits down and makes a deck (net decks just don't create themselves) then their group gives opinions, things are tweeked and honed. Then they get posted on the internet. Then people either copies them or builds against them. We as iMtG throw ideas out there, our friends give suggestions, then we post..... What's the difference? And it all happens on the internet

[Ertai]

He means this; looking at specific websites that list deck lists for pro decks of every type and then people copy those by building one.

Talking about decks that you make online is called brainstorming. There's a big difference.

[JustAWalrus]

He means this; looking at specific websites that list deck lists for pro decks of every type and then people copy those by building one.

Talking about decks that you make online is called brainstorming. There's a big difference.

There is a fine line between homebrews and net decks and the main difference is that alot of homebrews are made by people who are not good deck builders, no offense. But if you are a good deck builder you can build a deck that is almost as good as a net deck. When it comes to tier 1 and competative games it is usually 50% stradegy 30% luck and 20% deck but in casual it is 10% stradegy 40% luck and 50% deck. I think that net deck are just something you deal with not rant about

[Butch1977]

He means this; looking at specific websites that list deck lists for pro decks of every type and then people copy those by building one.

Talking about decks that you make online is called brainstorming. There's a big difference.

Ok, i concede, I don't copy specific decks, but i do GTS for cool combos then personally build around that.

[Mlerner12]

He means this; looking at specific websites that list deck lists for pro decks of every type and then people copy those by building one.

Talking about decks that you make online is called brainstorming. There's a big difference.

There is a fine line between homebrews and net decks and the main difference is that alot of homebrews are made by people who are not good deck builders, no offense. But if you are a good deck builder you can build a deck that is almost as good as a net deck. When it comes to tier 1 and competative games it is usually 50% stradegy 30% luck and 20% deck but in casual it is 10% stradegy 40% luck and 50% deck. I think that net deck are just something you deal with not rant about

This is illogical. To make a homebrew you areprobably a very GOOD deck builder as it is much harderto make a dec from scratch and with limited resources than it is to go online, read a decklist, buy some cards, and play.

[JustAWalrus]

He means this; looking at specific websites that list deck lists for pro decks of every type and then people copy those by building one.

Talking about decks that you make online is called brainstorming. There's a big difference.

There is a fine line between homebrews and net decks and the main difference is that alot of homebrews are made by people who are not good deck builders, no offense. But if you are a good deck builder you can build a deck that is almost as good as a net deck. When it comes to tier 1 and competative games it is usually 50% stradegy 30% luck and 20% deck but in casual it is 10% stradegy 40% luck and 50% deck. I think that net deck are just something you deal with not rant about

This is illogical. To make a homebrew you areprobably a very GOOD deck builder as it is much harderto make a dec from scratch and with limited resources than it is to go online, read a decklist, buy some cards, and play.

What about new players who build a deck out of random cards they pull up out of nowhere and people who think they can build a good deck when they cant. If you make a homebrew that cant win then maybe you arent such a good deck builder after all.

[JustAWalrus]

Im not trying to offend anyone but if you cant build a competative homebrew then why can you rant about how net decks are too good. And where do you think net decks come from, they dont fall from the sky people think them up they started as homebrews too. The last Grand Prix was won by a homebrew rogue deck.

[Butch1977]

Im not trying to offend anyone but if you cant build a competative homebrew then why can you rant about how net decks are too good. And where do you think net decks come from, they dont fall from the sky people think them up they started as homebrews too. The last Grand Prix was won by a homebrew rogue deck.

Total agreement. Someone or some team has to dream it up on the first place. Can't get mad cause they have access to cards. That would be like a teenager getting mad at me when I buy a booster box they can only afford a pack. And net decks are a great way for ideas you may not have noticed in a format.

[Dhoulmagus]

This is why I love drafts. Random cards, thinking quickly, someone who consistently wins draft tournaments is most likely a great deck builder. I see competitive players mostly follow deck lists and tweak a few cards here and there.

[Butch1977]

This is why I love drafts. Random cards, thinking quickly, someone who consistently wins draft tournaments is most likely a great deck builder. I see competitive players mostly follow deck lists and tweak a few cards here and there.

Yeah, too bad there is only one draft in this town every month. :-/

[Dhoulmagus]

I see a lot of hate on certain types of decks in this thread, *ahem* "esper" If a deck consistently wins, use what ever style and cards you want. There are a lot of cards that seem cheap and unfair, but 9 times out of ten there is a way around it.