Netdecking

Started by Mattao19, November 07, 2013, 01:16:35 AM

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Vileo

I run Sphinx's Revelation... I just play it with some red. =P

LadyGrixis

Quote from: Vileo on November 07, 2013, 10:02:47 PM
I run Sphinx's Revelation... I just play it with some red. =P

RWU American is my jam. All day long. Go you!

Vileo

Quote from: LadyGrixis on November 07, 2013, 10:10:32 PM
Quote from: Vileo on November 07, 2013, 10:02:47 PM
I run Sphinx's Revelation... I just play it with some red. =P

RWU American is my jam. All day long. Go you!
xD Thanks. I mostly made it because I have the lands, and Boros is my guild all day long, and U/W control just doesn't have all the answers I need for my meta. I love resolving {Assemble the Legion}. Like, as soon as that card came out, some guy gave me a foil because it was like, a $1 rare at the time.

LadyGrixis

Quote from: Vileo on November 07, 2013, 10:13:01 PM
Quote from: LadyGrixis on November 07, 2013, 10:10:32 PM
Quote from: Vileo on November 07, 2013, 10:02:47 PM
I run Sphinx's Revelation... I just play it with some red. =P

RWU American is my jam. All day long. Go you!
xD Thanks. I mostly made it because I have the lands, and Boros is my guild all day long, and U/W control just doesn't have all the answers I need for my meta. I love resolving {Assemble the Legion}. Like, as soon as that card came out, some guy gave me a foil because it was like, a $1 rare at the time.

Bahahahaha! I had a foil and traded it this week for fun things. I still have one left, nonfoil though ;(

FlickerYourOwnIdentity

I'm still build a flashy American deck for modern.  :)

ApexPredator

I ran American control before rotation. Was getting like 1st-3rd consistently for like a month an a half. Then all the good cards rotated. {Geist of St. Traft} {Delver of Secrets} {Think Twice}. I tried making something for rotation and it wasn't working. So now I run golgari mid range and it's awesome.

Butch1977

Quote from: NightWolf on November 07, 2013, 10:56:34 PM
I ran American control before rotation. Was getting like 1st-3rd consistently for like a month an a half. Then all the good cards rotated. {Geist of St. Traft} {Delver of Secrets} {Think Twice}. I tried making something for rotation and it wasn't working. So now I run golgari mid range and it's awesome.
Innistrad block was sick! I know the feel. After the gold rotates out and solids come back hopefully we can get back some nastiness

Ertai

So I'm assuming all of you talking about decks like this are net deckers?

I guess it's not a bad thing?

Vileo

Quote from: Ertai on November 08, 2013, 12:05:01 AM
So I'm assuming all of you talking about decks like this are net deckers?

I guess it's not a bad thing?
My deck isn't a netdeck, I actually sat down and added a color (Red) to my already "not-netdeck" U/W Control list.

Ertai

Quote from: Vileo on November 08, 2013, 12:18:33 AM
Quote from: Ertai on November 08, 2013, 12:05:01 AM
So I'm assuming all of you talking about decks like this are net deckers?

I guess it's not a bad thing?
My deck isn't a netdeck, I actually sat down and added a color (Red) to my already "not-netdeck" U/W Control list.

Sorry I didn't mean to offend, but all this talk about deck names made me assume.

I'm from a time where casual was the norm. Haha.

Vileo

Quote from: Ertai on November 08, 2013, 12:24:30 AM
Quote from: Vileo on November 08, 2013, 12:18:33 AM
Quote from: Ertai on November 08, 2013, 12:05:01 AM
So I'm assuming all of you talking about decks like this are net deckers?

I guess it's not a bad thing?
My deck isn't a netdeck, I actually sat down and added a color (Red) to my already "not-netdeck" U/W Control list.

Sorry I didn't mean to offend, but all this talk about deck names made me assume.

I'm from a time where casual was the norm. Haha.
It's fine, you didn't offend me, lol. And that would be a nice norm. =P Though, that's why I like EDH. Even if you can do some of the most broken things ever in it.

Kaleo42

I am about as far from a net decker as possible (check out any of the lists I actually take to tourneys), but I can see the good in it.

The biggest good side is with a simple word or phrase like naya blitz, esper control, or storm we know exactly what their talking about and save tons of time that used to be spent discribing a deck before talking about it.

Having a standard of the "best" decks helps us to plan as a group. People anywhere can hop online and get ideas that are relevant to their play level. Beginners see how to build with synergy and mana curve. Moderate players get ideas for what to work toward (or against) in their deck building, and experts see what the greatest minds have conjured and can deduce valuable information locked in the subtext of the deck and event that a majority over players will never even glimpse.

Ertai

Quote from: Kaleo42 on November 08, 2013, 12:54:37 AM
I am about as far from a net decker as possible (check out any of the lists I actually take to tourneys), but I can see the good in it.

The biggest good side is with a simple word or phrase like naya blitz, esper control, or storm we know exactly what their talking about and save tons of time that used to be spent discribing a deck before talking about it.

Having a standard of the "best" decks helps us to plan as a group. People anywhere can hop online and get ideas that are relevant to their play level. Beginners see how to build with synergy and mana curve. Moderate players get ideas for what to work toward (or against) in their deck building, and experts see what the greatest minds have conjured and can deduce valuable information locked in the subtext of the deck and event that a majority over players will never even glimpse.

If I could give you a +1 I would.  Well put, sir  couldn't have said it better myself!

Vileo

Quote from: Ertai on November 08, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on November 08, 2013, 12:54:37 AM
I am about as far from a net decker as possible (check out any of the lists I actually take to tourneys), but I can see the good in it.

The biggest good side is with a simple word or phrase like naya blitz, esper control, or storm we know exactly what their talking about and save tons of time that used to be spent discribing a deck before talking about it.

Having a standard of the "best" decks helps us to plan as a group. People anywhere can hop online and get ideas that are relevant to their play level. Beginners see how to build with synergy and mana curve. Moderate players get ideas for what to work toward (or against) in their deck building, and experts see what the greatest minds have conjured and can deduce valuable information locked in the subtext of the deck and event that a majority over players will never even glimpse.

If I could give you a +1 I could. Well put, sir  couldn't have said it myself!
+1'd for you. I agree.

Dudecore

I don't see a problem with net decking. It's a game, sometimes there is money on the line. If you look at all the top teams - StarCity, Channel Fireball, ect - they all sort of netdeck in a way. They take successful shells or engines and playtest extensively around maximizing their level of play.

I notice mostly all the resistance to Netdecking are people who bring their homebrew to FNM and lose to a netdeck. Well quite honestly, it's difficult to beat those decks because they've been proven successful. While most people's homebrew are not nearly as scrutinized or play tested.

I've played against plenty of very tuned, excellent rogue decks on MTGO. I've known, and seen many people win Standard 8-man's with ideas they've been kicking around. Because it's very easy to get games in MTGO, you can playtest very quickly and get in tons of games before plunking down money. For many, they can merely play magic in their brains before Friday, when they find themselves paying entry fees for an FNM they cannot possibly win.

Netdecks are also very important for what Kaleo said, planning against the popular decks becomes easier. No matter what way we slice it, a certain number of players will never play a main stream deck. A certain amount of people who will play netdecks won't be good at piloting them. A certain amount won't care about winning. People play Magic for different reasons.