Best secondary color for Heroic?

Started by Gorzo, October 30, 2013, 04:23:10 PM

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Gorzo

So I want to build a standard heroic deck. It's primary color is obviously white, with {Phalanx Leader}, {Fabled Hero}, {Spear of Heliod}, and probably {Ordeal of Heliod}, the hoplite, celestial flare, and some heroic trigger stuff.

The question is, do I add a secondary color or stay mono white?

{B} offers {Agent of the Fates}, Obzedat, the whip, and some pretty solid heroic triggering spells.

{U} offers {Triton's Tactics} and control elements.

{R} offers additional aggression, {Boros Reckoner} with ease, and burn.

{G} offers trample, fight-effects (great heroic triggers), mana fixing, and some handy selesnya tricks.

Thoughts?

InfinitiveDivinity

I tried R/W heroic and it turned out terrible. Not a fan. Although I did play a Bant Heroic deck at my last FNM for 1st, and it was sweet! Not sure of you're a fan of control, but this deck was awesome! I can try and recall the cards if you want.

Gorzo

Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on October 30, 2013, 04:27:22 PM
I tried R/W heroic and it turned out terrible. Not a fan. Although I did play a Bant Heroic deck at my last FNM for 1st, and it was sweet! Not sure of you're a fan of control, but this deck was awesome! I can try and recall the cards if you want.

Would be greatly appreciated if you can, but not worth hurting your brain over ;) if anyone else has tried heroic, I'd live to hear their experiences good and bad

Thetrufflehunter

I did {R}{W} heroic at the PreRe, and only lost to {G}{W} heroic. Either of those are good, but I'd do {G}{W} if I were you, because you get {centaur battle master}, {unflinching courage}, {boon satyr}, and {feral invocation} among other stuff.

LadyGrixis

Selesnya/Simic/Azorius or combo for Bant. I ran a Simic Heroic in limited with unblockable being my win con, and it was terrible for the other side. Not sure how it would stand up in constructed, but I used cards like {Aqueous Form}, {Ordeal of Thassa}, {Ordeal of Nylea}, and {Triton Tactics} for triggers/pumps, and then swung away with creatures like {Polukranos, World Eater}, {Centaur Battlemaster} & {Agent of Horizons}.

Teysa karlov

B/W is okay! Still need to work out its kinks!

DirtyMustachio

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My dear gorzo, a topic I've been chasing since heroic was announced. Allow me to share my personal experience and perception since heroic was announced.

I currently have two builds, I have yet to test one because I've been "devoted" to u/w.

I specifically skipped last format so I could study the upcoming one and heroic is all I could think about.

What I've found is as a splash heroic is suck, unless your primary deck is aura's then its okay as splash.

Don't try to do to much, I've done builds with elspeths and gods and reckoners thunes and fiendslayers. And its all cute and stuff but at the end of the day heroic really only gains synergy from more heroic. Exception being {corpsejack menace}.

So you have heroes. So you need triggers

By far the best trigger for heroic by far is {hidden strings} the shenanigans. I mean really.  With double strike  and cipher that a {phalanx leader} and {fabled hero} might as well be gg. {Biomass mutation} is pretty silly to.

Other noteable dual triggers
{Common bond}
{Martial glory}

I've had very nice success with u/w so far. I'll post my fnm deck soon. Along with my future r/w build.

In distant future I'm going to attempt a g/w build something about {savage summoning} a {fabled hero} just sounds dirty to me.

The heroics and triggers aren't to hard to do, you'll realize as you build the good choices are there. Its mainly how you look at the format and what you want to do to face them.

For me r/w and u/w have been my attention.

U/w has {detention sphere} and can side into {supreme verdict} {negate} and {dispel}

R/w has {chained to the rocks} and {titans strength} and most Importantly {boros charm}

DirtyMustachio

Bumped my current build in standard section

Thetrufflehunter

The boros split spell is {martial glory}.

InfinitiveDivinity

Okay, so from what I can remember, it was something like this:

Creatures

{Favored Hoplite}
{Soldier of the Panteon}
{Battlewise Hoplite}
{Azorius Arrester}
{Chronicler of Heroes}
{Lyev Skyknight}

Other Spells

{Brave the Elements}
{Gods Willing}
{Warrior's Lesson}
{Selesnya Charm}
{Simic Charm}


Essentially Bant Aggro. This deck is so sweet! He played it extremely tight, it was an intense match!

DirtyMustachio


DirtyMustachio

I'm also considering making

Americas Hero's..... lololol
R/w/u ha...

Gorzo

Wow, {Hidden Strings} is genius.

I might be leaning blue now, maybe Bant to add unflinching courage.

Thanks so much everyone! +1's all around!

Mattao19

Blue for {Gridlock} at Instant speed you do it at the end of their turn and get a TON of benefits! Plus {Battlewise Hoplite} is great.

Also try {Aquous Form} unblock able is sick but Scry every attack is awesome

whitedrake

Quote from: Gorzo on October 30, 2013, 05:25:30 PM
Wow, {Hidden Strings} is genius.

I might be leaning blue now, maybe Bant to add unflinching courage.

Thanks so much everyone! +1's all around!

I have played Esper Cotrollish Midrange during the Game Day... I have played playset of Agent of the fates and Hidden Strings combo there..;) Few Triton Tactics, Thassa and it was really nice... Unfortunately not quick enough. But when I pulled that combo out it was a gg...;)