This vs. that

Started by Dudecore, October 24, 2013, 12:29:00 AM

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Dudecore

For the better part of 3 days I've been debating which clone I should use. The following have been put in relation to my deck also.

{Phantasmal Image}
Currently my go-to clone. I like him and what he does. Cheap and I can reuse him with {Sun Titan}. By having Phantasmal image EtB as Sun Titan, then reanimate something else I get good value.

{Body Double}
It's just super powerful. I like powerful cards...

{Rite of Replication}
I can use this, and get recursion with {Archaeomancer}

Millionlittlee


Dudecore


MarduArrow

I would go with phantasmal image, it has the lowest mana cost, it gets around shroud, it can be brought back with sun titan if it dies, and I'm sure there's more good stuff about it that I can't think of at the moment

Spikepit

I'd probably go with {Rite of Replication}, there's too many possible spells in EDH for me to feel my Illusion creature is safe.

Maybe a stupid question, but have you thought about {Quicksilver Gargantuan}? EDH has the mana base for it? Granted, it doesn't get an appearance till T7 without a {Quicksilver Amulet} or reanimator, but still...

Gorzo

No love for {Phyrexian Metamorph}? 3 mana + 2 life to clone creature OR artifact is pretty damn good in a format with some seriously nasty artifacts popping up now and then.

To a significantly less powerful extent, I like to play around with {cryptoplasm}, which may not enter as a clone, but allows itself to "upgrade" each of your turns as new threats/options appear.

Dudecore

I might consider {Gilded Drake} (loosely a Clone)

{Phyrexian Metamorph} is a badass, but it doesn't play to any of my decks strengths. For the mana, I like {Body Double} more - all of the good things are usually dead. I don't get recursion with him either...

Dudecore

{Temple of the False God} vs. {Ancient Tomb}

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Dudecore on October 25, 2013, 08:40:49 PM
{Temple of the False God} vs. {Ancient Tomb}
I prefer {Ancient Tomb}. It sucks getting stuck with a {Temple of the False God} in opening hand.

Mlerner12

{clone} is pretty good, and anything Gorzo said is good too ;)

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Dudecore on October 24, 2013, 08:51:40 AM
I might consider {Gilded Drake} (loosely a Clone)

{Phyrexian Metamorph} is a badass, but it doesn't play to any of my decks strengths. For the mana, I like {Body Double} more - all of the good things are usually dead. I don't get recursion with him either...
I'd use {Gilded Drake}. Clones have lost alot of their power with the new legendary rule change. I'd rather take their toy away from them and play with it myself than have us both end up with the same toy.

Vileo

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 25, 2013, 10:11:25 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on October 24, 2013, 08:51:40 AM
I might consider {Gilded Drake} (loosely a Clone)

{Phyrexian Metamorph} is a badass, but it doesn't play to any of my decks strengths. For the mana, I like {Body Double} more - all of the good things are usually dead. I don't get recursion with him either...
I'd use {Gilded Drake}. Clones have lost alot of their power with the new legendary rule change. I'd rather take their toy away from them and play with it myself than have us both end up with the same toy.
Drake/Metamorph are the two best "clones" in my opinion. Unless you want to play {Vesuvan Shapeshifter}, which is extremely good for when someone plays another card you want to copy.

Stoneco1d869

Do you run  {Kokusho, the Evening Star}? Cause a kicked  {Rite of Replication} is nasty, not to mention copying eldrazi or other huge sticks...

Gorzo

Quote from: Dudecore on October 25, 2013, 08:40:49 PM
{Temple of the False God} vs. {Ancient Tomb}

I'm a big fan if {Temple of the False God} in EDH. The slower, casual speed of the format really eases the "5 lands or more" clause, and I very, very rarely have trouble breaching that threshold, making it have no down side 95-99% of the time.

{Ancient Tomb}, while definitely good, will always have that minor down side. Regardless of the board state.

Of course you can always run both :)

Stoneco1d869

Quote from: Dudecore on October 25, 2013, 08:40:49 PM
{Temple of the False God} vs. {Ancient Tomb}

If money is not an obstacle I go Tomb, in fact I don't run false god in any deck cause it takes too long for me to benefit from it. It does have a place in an Esper build.