Accidently droppimg cards

[Tetsomori]

I was playing in a tourney and my opponent dropped a [chandra's rage] on the field as an "accident" so i left mana open to [faith's sheild] and attacked him for lethal. He stated that i cheated because he accidently dropped the card and i purposley played against it. The judge gave ME the match loss?? Wtf??

[Imdowd80]

I don't believe that should be counted as a loss, its just knowledge, that got put to use. He should have protected his hand better, it's not like you were purposely trying to get a look at his cards. 

[Tetsomori]

Yeah thats what i thought and told them what was i supposed to do? Not play [faith's sheild]?

[BlackJester]

The proper procedure would be to call a judge immediately and have them sort it out from there.

[Tetsomori]

The judge gavd me a match loss for it.

[BlackJester]

The judge gavd me a match loss for it.

Did you tell the judge immediately when it happened, or did you use the information to your advantage?

[BadLuckIrish]

Yeah thats what i thought and told them what was i supposed to do? Not play [faith's sheild]?

Close...use the curly brackets not the [ ]. And also i dont think you should of loss because u had knowledge of your oppenents hand through his mistake

[NillaWafers]

Used the info. Do they not teach you to read in Canada? O_o

[Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker]

I was playing in a tourney and my opponent dropped a {chandra's rage} on the field as an "accident" so i left mana open to {faith's sheild}and attacked him for lethal. He stated that i cheated because he accidently dropped the card and i purposley played against it. The judge gave ME the match loss?? Wtf??

The {       }

[BlackJester]

Failure to report a violation, such as Extra Cards Revealed, and using the information for game advantage is looked at as cheating.

Edit:  I'm looking into this now.  It may fall under Hidden Information Violation.

[BadLuckIrish]

Failure to report a violation, such as Extra Cards Revealed, and using the information for game advantage is looked at as cheating.

I seriously disagree about this...If the oppenent is careless about his cards then it should be your right to use it to your advantage

[BlackJester]

Exerpt from the REL Judge guide:
"Players are considered to have looked at a card when they have been able to observe the face of a hidden card, or when a card is moved any significant amount from a deck, but before it touches the other cards in their hand. This includes errors of dexterity or catching a play error before the card is placed into his or her hand. Once a card has been placed into his or her hand or if a player takes a game action after removing the card from the library, the offense is no longer Looking at Extra Cards."

[BlackJester]

REL 6 - Cheating - Fraud
"A person intentionally and knowingly violates or misrepresents rules, procedures, personal information, or any other relevant tournament information.  Note that Fraud, like most cheating, is determined by an investigation and will often appear on the surface as a Game Play Error or Tournament Error.

Additionally, it is Fraud if a player (or teammate) notices an offense in their match and does not immediately call attention to it."

Had you reported the fault to a judge immediately, your opponent would have been given a warning, and may have had to shuffle the card back into their library (not sure about the last part).  Not reporting it put you at fault.  You are lucky not to have been given a Disqualification.

[BlackJester]

Used the info. Do they not teach you to read in Canada? O_o

Oi!  What'chu talkin' 'bout Canada? 

[loop-s-pool]

I'm with jester on this one. Even though it's to your advantage, you'll be better off just getting a judge over and they'll sort everything out.