Threads of disloyality

Started by rarehuntertay, October 05, 2013, 10:58:00 PM

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rarehuntertay

My opponent has an  {Insectile Aberration} in play. I play  {Threads of Disloyalty}. Would I be able to attack with the  {Insectile Aberration}?

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

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Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 05, 2013, 10:58:00 PM
My opponent has an  {Insectile Aberration} in play. I play  {Threads of Disloyalty}. Would I be able to attack with the  {Insectile Aberration}?
Yes, its mana converted mana cost is 0. Although, the card is affected by summoning sickness still.

Gorzo

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Not on that turn, no. It will be be summoning sick if it has not been under your control at the beginning of the turn (untap step). This does include mind control effects, and is why {act of treason} type spells and effects always give haste.

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Mattao19

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 05, 2013, 11:11:39 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 05, 2013, 10:58:00 PM
My opponent has an  {Insectile Aberration} in play. I play  {Threads of Disloyalty}. Would I be able to attack with the  {Insectile Aberration}?
Yes, its mana converted mana cost is 0

It's CMC is 0? It's not {Delver of Secrets} CMC?

Gorzo

Quote from: Mattao19 on October 05, 2013, 11:26:51 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 05, 2013, 11:11:39 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 05, 2013, 10:58:00 PM
My opponent has an  {Insectile Aberration} in play. I play  {Threads of Disloyalty}. Would I be able to attack with the  {Insectile Aberration}?
Yes, its mana converted mana cost is 0

It's CMC is 0? It's not {Delver of Secrets} CMC?

Correct, the flipped side of Transformed flip cards have no mana card, and therefor are considered a 0 CMC. You can blow any of them up with a 0-counter {ratchet bomb}, even {Garruk,, Veil Cursed}

Mattao19

Quote from: Gorzo on October 05, 2013, 11:29:34 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on October 05, 2013, 11:26:51 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 05, 2013, 11:11:39 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 05, 2013, 10:58:00 PM
My opponent has an  {Insectile Aberration} in play. I play  {Threads of Disloyalty}. Would I be able to attack with the  {Insectile Aberration}?
Yes, its mana converted mana cost is 0

It's CMC is 0? It's not {Delver of Secrets} CMC?

Correct, the flipped side of Transformed flip cards have no mana card, and therefor are considered a 0 CMC. You can blow any of them up with a 0-counter {ratchet bomb}, even {Garruk,, Veil Cursed}

Ok cool also I don't get the Garruk part but other than that kewlio :D

Steerpike

The flipped garruk has no cmc as well