Standard Dega combo

Started by DylanW18, September 29, 2013, 12:02:32 AM

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DylanW18

{Aurelia the Warleader} + {Desecration Demon}

Teysa karlov

This is nasty! Going to have to use it

Legends784

My favorite synergy/combo in standard right now is {obzedat, ghost council} and {whip of erebos}

Teysa karlov

Quote from: Legends784 on September 29, 2013, 11:05:49 AM
My favorite synergy/combo in standard right now is {obzedat, ghost council} and {whip of erebos}

I'm using that in my stardrd deck atm! I do get some hate for it but it's so fun

Pirate John

Quote from: Legends784 on September 29, 2013, 11:05:49 AM
My favorite synergy/combo in standard right now is {obzedat, ghost council} and {whip of erebos}

Doesn't work. Whip's effect takes precedent over Obzedat's

Teysa karlov

It's does as both abilities activate at the same time you choose stack order!  if you put the {whip of Erebos}ability on the stack first, then put {Obzedat, ghost council}'s second ability on the stack on top!  The  {Obzedat, ghost council} exiles itself, the whip tries to excite it but it is already exiled so the whip does nothing! And in your next upkeep  {Obzedat, ghost council} comes back as it exiled itself!

Vindog


DylanW18

Desecration Demon will trigger again with the new combat phase, making them sac 2 a turn, or take 6+ then sac a creature, or take 12

Steerpike

Well, if you've attacked with the demon, they either sac and tap it and give it a counter or let it attack. Either way, it would still be tapped during the 2nd combat since Aurelia doesn't untap things after the first combat.
So this really only works if you have sone other way of untapping the demon

Jdogtoocool

Quote from: Steerpike on September 30, 2013, 04:40:44 AM
Well, if you've attacked with the demon, they either sac and tap it and give it a counter or let it attack. Either way, it would still be tapped during the 2nd combat since Aurelia doesn't untap things after the first combat.
So this really only works if you have sone other way of untapping the demon

Aurelia colearlo saya untap all creatifes you control.

Jdogtoocool

Quote from: Teysa karlov on September 29, 2013, 05:48:16 PM
It's does as both abilities activate at the same time you choose stack order!  if you put the {whip of Erebos}ability on the stack first, then put {Obzedat, ghost council}'s second ability on the stack on top!  The  {Obzedat, ghost council} exiles itself, the whip tries to excite it but it is already exiled so the whip does nothing! And in your next upkeep  {Obzedat, ghost council} comes back as it exiled itself!

Whit so can you do the same with  {Ætherling}?

Iandtormentor

Quote from: Jdogtoocool on September 30, 2013, 07:20:13 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on September 29, 2013, 05:48:16 PM
It's does as both abilities activate at the same time you choose stack order!  if you put the {whip of Erebos}ability on the stack first, then put {Obzedat, ghost council}'s second ability on the stack on top!  The  {Obzedat, ghost council} exiles itself, the whip tries to excite it but it is already exiled so the whip does nothing! And in your next upkeep  {Obzedat, ghost council} comes back as it exiled itself!

Whit so can you do the same with  {Ætherling}?
oh, god...ouch

Teysa karlov

Quote from: Iandtormentor on September 30, 2013, 07:41:57 AM
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on September 30, 2013, 07:20:13 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on September 29, 2013, 05:48:16 PM
It's does as both abilities activate at the same time you choose stack order!  if you put the {whip of Erebos}ability on the stack first, then put {Obzedat, ghost council}'s second ability on the stack on top!  The  {Obzedat, ghost council} exiles itself, the whip tries to excite it but it is already exiled so the whip does nothing! And in your next upkeep  {Obzedat, ghost council} comes back as it exiled itself!

Whit so can you do the same with  {Ætherling}?
oh, god...ouch

I guess so, but I wish it didn't!  {Ætherling} is evil, and not in a good way!

Steerpike

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Quote from: Jdogtoocool on September 30, 2013, 07:18:42 AM
Quote from: Steerpike on September 30, 2013, 04:40:44 AM
Well, if you've attacked with the demon, they either sac and tap it and give it a counter or let it attack. Either way, it would still be tapped during the 2nd combat since Aurelia doesn't untap things after the first combat.
So this really only works if you have sone other way of untapping the demon

Aurelia colearlo saya untap all creatifes you control.

It only says for the first combat though.

Because tapping happens after attackers are declared (meaning after Aurelia untaps them), does that not mean that once the attack is checked as legal, all attacking creatures during the first combat will be tapped during the second combat?

Or is Aurelia worded where the the untapping occurs after the tap-from-attacking part?

Wackaman9001

Quote from: Teysa karlov on September 30, 2013, 08:41:07 AM
Quote from: Iandtormentor on September 30, 2013, 07:41:57 AM
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on September 30, 2013, 07:20:13 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on September 29, 2013, 05:48:16 PM
It's does as both abilities activate at the same time you choose stack order!  if you put the {whip of Erebos}ability on the stack first, then put {Obzedat, ghost council}'s second ability on the stack on top!  The  {Obzedat, ghost council} exiles itself, the whip tries to excite it but it is already exiled so the whip does nothing! And in your next upkeep  {Obzedat, ghost council} comes back as it exiled itself!

Whit so can you do the same with  {Ætherling}?
oh, god...ouch

I guess so, but I wish it didn't!  {Ætherling} is evil, and not in a good way!
Dayum! Looks like I'm going esper reanimator for states!