OP card?

Started by Charbelchers rage, August 13, 2013, 11:04:43 PM

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Charbelchers rage

And you thought slivers were bad...
{silence}
Well you just broke a lot of decks...
Also why doesn't red have ANY enchantment removal?

EvACiDe

Silence is good but I wouldn't say it's too op

Mlerner12

{Elite Arcanist}. 'Nuff said.

Mikefrompluto

Quote from: Charbelchers rage on August 13, 2013, 11:04:43 PM
And you thought slivers were bad...
{silence}
Well you just broke a lot of decks...
Also why doesn't red have ANY enchantment removal?

Red is more focused on physical removal, such as destroying artifacts. It just kind of ignores enchantments.

EvACiDe

Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 13, 2013, 11:23:55 PM
{Elite Arcanist}. 'Nuff said.

He's a great card! Pretty much a creature isochron scepter :)

Apathy Reactor

Quote from: Taysby on August 14, 2013, 12:30:27 AM
I think he meant {silence} on {elite arcanist}. No more game for you.  Get another {elite arcanist} with {fog} on it.  Don't have a kill spell in your hand?  Good game.
that only keeps them from casting spells on your turn and hitting you with combat damage on your turn, on their turn, the effects wear off.

Mlerner12

Quote from: IceScythe on August 14, 2013, 01:33:09 AM
Quote from: Taysby on August 14, 2013, 12:30:27 AM
I think he meant {silence} on {elite arcanist}. No more game for you.  Get another {elite arcanist} with {fog} on it.  Don't have a kill spell in your hand?  Good game.
that only keeps them from casting spells on your turn and hitting you with combat damage on your turn, on their turn, the effects wear off.
It's instant speed. You can do it on their turn.

Apathy Reactor

You have to tap him to use his ability._.

Mlerner12

Quote from: IceScythe on August 14, 2013, 11:40:09 AM
You have to tap him to use his ability._.

Yeah, you can tap at instant speed. Can't you?

Mlerner12

Huh, at my FNM they always say you can tap at instant speed. Darn.

All-Mana Mania

Quote from: IceScythe on August 14, 2013, 11:44:48 AM
-_- you can only tap him during your turn.


You can tap him as a response to things on their turn. Also instead of fog pay no heed.

Quisequise

112.3b: Activated abilities have a cost and an effect. They are written as "[Cost]: [Effect.] [Activation instructions (if any).]" A player may activate such an ability whenever he or she has priority. Doing so puts it on the stack, where it remains until it's countered, it resolves, or it otherwise leaves the stack. See rule 602, "Activating Activated Abilities."

Quisequise

Or ice do you mean that if you use him on your turn you can't again because he's already tapped?

EvACiDe

Tapping for an ability CAN be used as an instant

Crapshooter

Quote from: IceScythe on August 14, 2013, 11:44:48 AM
-_- you can only tap him during your turn.

Also you can activate both at the end of their untap step, they last the entire turn