Theros (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)

Started by Mlerner12, June 15, 2013, 10:56:51 PM

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Spikepit

Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 04, 2013, 05:58:52 PM
Something similar to Anhiallator!
Due to meta anger at the time of release, I don't think we'll be seeing Annihilator or things similar until the next time Eldrazi come back if at all.

Silent1236

....did you just call the Eldrazi boring?  I love the Eldrazi. Very much.

Birdbrain

Quote from: Silent1236 on August 04, 2013, 06:50:03 PM
....did you just call the Eldrazi boring?  I love the Eldrazi. Very much.
yea. And when they hit the battlefield, it's a garunteed win. BORING

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Birdbrain on August 04, 2013, 06:58:48 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 04, 2013, 06:50:03 PM
....did you just call the Eldrazi boring?  I love the Eldrazi. Very much.
yea. And when they hit the battlefield, it's a garunteed win. BORING
{Wrath of God}, {Merciless Eviction}, {Blind Obedience}, {Nevermore}...there are more than a few ways to deal with Eldrazi.

Silent1236

I've dropped {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} and still lost before.  And in all reality, {Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre} and {Kozilek, Butcher of Truth} get taken out pretty easily :-\

Spikepit

{Act of Treason} style decks (as I had around their standard day) make Eldrazi player second guess their strategy hands down.

Mizark

Hey, what if we get Legendary Enchantments, Sorceries and Instants in Theros ??
I'm not sure how the legendary sorcery and instant cards would work, maybe you can only have one in a deck or something, i'm not sure or maybe they would work with a new mechanic...

Falcon182

Quote from: Kaleo42 on August 04, 2013, 05:46:46 PM
After some thinking here are some thoughts I have had on speculation. The new clone rule discourages cheap unflavorable kills on legendaries and emcourages using each printing of a planeswalker to it's fullest.

On the planeswalkers this allows the same walkers to be printed and revamped at both higher and low CMC reguardless of what else sees a lot of play. No more {jace beleren} legend blading {jace, the mind sculpter} situations. Meaning new Elspeth could very well be a 3cmc just as much as a 6cmc. New garruk is a good example of this new playability dispite smaller garruks seeing lots of play.

As for legends and specifically gods...think eldrazi. It takes a lot of investement to make an eldrazi happen and once you get their 4cmc {clone} should not be an end all to all your hard work. With this concept in mind I am anticipating the gods being a similar or even greater workload to play with a high rate of return in their sheer power now that cloning is not the ultimate FU.

A lot of work... You mean like  {Lotus Petal},  {Ancient Tomb},  {Show and Tell} ---> {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} ----> win?

There's no reason I shouldn't be able to pay cmc 4 or cmc 2 even to remove this, if I happen to have that playable in my hand. Decks don't run clones main board generally and considering how non-interactive some cards are, not being able to legend them out makes them even more broken. I've said time and again: cards as powerful as  {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} should never be printed.

rarehuntertay

Quote from: Mizark on August 04, 2013, 11:15:31 PM
Hey, what if we get Legendary Enchantments, Sorceries and Instants in Theros ??
I'm not sure how the legendary sorcery and instant cards would work, maybe you can only have one in a deck or something, i'm not sure or maybe they would work with a new mechanic...

How about something like the old Enchant World cards??

Mizark

Quote from: rarehuntertay on August 05, 2013, 06:33:50 PM
Quote from: Mizark on August 04, 2013, 11:15:31 PM
Hey, what if we get Legendary Enchantments, Sorceries and Instants in Theros ??
I'm not sure how the legendary sorcery and instant cards would work, maybe you can only have one in a deck or something, i'm not sure or maybe they would work with a new mechanic...

How about something like the old Enchant World cards??

That could be a possibility
I mean this is the first time we have "Gods" in Magic so i can imagine some enchantments, sorcery or instant cards that would be linked to those gods
Something like the "Miracles" in Avacyn Restored

Double-O-Scotch


Mizark

Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on August 05, 2013, 08:05:57 PM
"divine intervention" mechanic...

Yeah, i like that !!
It could be like "every time someone casts a legendary spell, destroy all non-land non-legenday non-God permanents they can't be regenerated"
It would be like a {Wrath of God} implemented in the card, which is quite powerful

MuggyWuggy

Depending on what minotaurs are produced...homelands may go up in value for legacy/vintage

Silent1236

Quote from: Muggywuggy on August 05, 2013, 08:21:52 PM
Depending on what minotaurs are produced...homelands may go up in value for legacy/vintage

Lol that's wotc's scheme the whole time!!

LadyGrixis

Quote from: Falcon182 on August 05, 2013, 12:28:36 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on August 04, 2013, 05:46:46 PM
After some thinking here are some thoughts I have had on speculation. The new clone rule discourages cheap unflavorable kills on legendaries and emcourages using each printing of a planeswalker to it's fullest.

On the planeswalkers this allows the same walkers to be printed and revamped at both higher and low CMC reguardless of what else sees a lot of play. No more {jace beleren} legend blading {jace, the mind sculpter} situations. Meaning new Elspeth could very well be a 3cmc just as much as a 6cmc. New garruk is a good example of this new playability dispite smaller garruks seeing lots of play.

As for legends and specifically gods...think eldrazi. It takes a lot of investement to make an eldrazi happen and once you get their 4cmc {clone} should not be an end all to all your hard work. With this concept in mind I am anticipating the gods being a similar or even greater workload to play with a high rate of return in their sheer power now that cloning is not the ultimate FU.

A lot of work... You mean like  {Lotus Petal},  {Ancient Tomb},  {Show and Tell} ---> {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} ----> win?

There's no reason I shouldn't be able to pay cmc 4 or cmc 2 even to remove this, if I happen to have that playable in my hand. Decks don't run clones main board generally and considering how non-interactive some cards are, not being able to legend them out makes them even more broken. I've said time and again: cards as powerful as  {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} should never be printed.

I agree 100%. What's the point of even playing the game when a card like that hits the field? At that moment, it's no longer fun. And then I flip the table.