Denied service at local shop without cause

Started by Legends784, June 14, 2013, 06:57:04 PM

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Legends784

Ok now I have no idea where to put this because I think it's more of a legal matter but I got a call from the owner of my local shop saying that they were permenately banning me from the store. I asked why and he told me that it's just not for me and the way I carry myself isn't right for the store. I asked him what that meant and if I said/did anything wrong he sai no but he just didn't like the way I carried myself. I have single handedly gotten 15 people into magic and they're all regular customers there because of it. I asked the other players and no one has any idea what the cause is. So my question is can he legally not allow me to participate in a public event like an fnm with no probable cause? The only thing I can think of is that someone tipped him off about me spreading rummers of a new shop opening up soon close by but I beer said anything in the store.

MisterJH


Kagain123

You could try to tip WOTC off and see if they can do anything. That being said, it is his store and I believe that store owners reserve the right to refuse service. That still sux and is total BS IMO.

Melek the fire

Legally ? Yes he can deny you from being in hi store. But that saying another shop opening near by may have gotten to his ear, not fair or cool, but could be the reason .

Legends784

Yeah what sucks is the new shop opened this weekend but the first fnm isnt utill mid July.

I have no idea what to do. I mean it was completely out of the blue I just went to Saturday night magic last Saturday and he didn't say a thing, I thanked him when I left like I normally do he said see ya later Al and that was the end of it and now this. I just can't fathom it.

Birdbrain

Eh. Just shrug it off. Sh** happens. When life gives you lemons, go play golf or something like that

Paraluke

Yea he denies you and the business u gave to him. Move on ;)

Legends784

Lmao funniest thing yet, I talked to a kid that's been going there for about 5 years now, and he got banned about a year ago for legitimently no reason. Apparently his track season started and he couldn't come to the shop to play anymore and the owner thought he was boycotting and going to a different store so he banned him XD

MuggyWuggy

I understand wanting loyalty to your shop but banning people like that will only result in his shop having low return results

A simple communication with the owner via email is good, keep communication like that logged. You can leave a yelp review and if properly written will behoove others from using his service. Reviews are really good for judging places, even just seeing how a manager responds to complaints.

Masterofpuppets

What you should do is go back and demand an explanation in a calm collected way.  There has to be something your leaving out like being balligerent or saying offensive comments he may have heard.  I am not judging you I'm sure your a good guy but you had to have offended him somehow.  If you explain that you would like to apologize for whatever you may have done and explain that you would be happy to tone it down or whatever he may wish I can't see it being denied.  If that doesn't work you can always tell him that you also have rights and one of those is to picket his store and leave flyers and do what you must to not let this happen to another.  Lastly if you are a minority you can also go the route of saying you believe it to be descrimination and that you will not tolerate such racism.  I'd go with doing it like a man and going in and speaking to him in person one on one.

Masterofpuppets

If that doesn't work you really should sit back and think what Brian boitano would do and that answer is probably kick ass or two.  Yes that's what Brian Boitano'd do.  I know that's probably the answer everyone was thinking I just wanted to make sure we were all on the same page.  Haha.

Mlerner12

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Quote from: Birdbrain on June 14, 2013, 09:05:15 PM
Eh. Just shrug it off. Sh** happens. When life gives you lemons, go play golf or something like that

I just throw them back at life. I don't want his melons. They could be poisonous. I then demand to see life's manager.


I am very sorry about that, meant to quote, not modify.     -Flicker

Wingnut

I say cut the losses, one of the great things about being a free country is you can choose to shop anywhere, just as he can choose who to let shop at the store he controls. It's his choice, he can boot you for just about any reason (race, sexual orientation, etc... Excluded). He may have received complaints from other customers, he may have caught wind of you promoting a competitor (which I would 100% boot you for) or you may have simply worn a shirt he didn't like. In the end it's his choice, but in the end, you also have the right to promote this new store. You do not have the right to devalue his store with lies, but you CAN devalue his store with truth. I say give your business to the new store, and promote it with out devaluing the old store. If he chooses to ban customers for petty reasons, he will soon put himself out of business anyways.

FlickerYourOwnIdentity

Quote from: Mlerner12 on June 15, 2013, 09:22:37 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on June 14, 2013, 09:05:15 PM
Eh. Just shrug it off. Sh** happens. When life gives you lemons, go play golf or something like that

I just throw them back at life. I don't want his melons. They could be poisonous. I then demand to see life's manager.
I don't want your damn melons.  Demand to see life's manager, and make him take the melons back!  In fact, I'll invent a combustable melon.  Then I'm gonna burn life's house down.  WITH THE COMBUSTABLE MELONS!!!

Sorry, I had to bring portal into this. :)
I am also sorry for modifying another post, and putting it on theirs.

Mlerner12