Either combo, cool synergy standard

Started by FlickerYourOwnIdentity, May 17, 2013, 01:23:57 AM

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FlickerYourOwnIdentity

{Young Wolf}, {Experiment One}, and {Rapid Hydrasation}.

T1: {Forest}
{Experiment One}
Pass

T2: {Island}
{Young Wolf}
{Rapid Hydrasation} targeting {Young Wolf}.
The wolf comes back, triggering evolve, the the 3/3, also triggering evolve.
Pass

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So basically you have two 3/3s, and one 2/2 on turn two.

Bman0121


Kagain123

Use  {Cloudfin Raptor} instead of  {Experiment One} to get a 3/4 flyer with 3/3 and 2/2

Redrighthand

I don't think this quite works,  {Rapid Hybridization} would resolve before  {Young Wolf}'s undying and so the 3/3 frog would have evolved  {Experiment One} into a 2/2 and so the returning wolf, as a 2/2, would not trigger a second evolve.

Or am I wrong?

MementoMori

Quote from: Redrighthand on May 17, 2013, 12:16:00 PM
I don't think this quite works,  {Rapid Hybridization} would resolve before  {Young Wolf}'s undying and so the 3/3 frog would have evolved  {Experiment One} into a 2/2 and so the returning wolf, as a 2/2, would not trigger a second evolve.

Or am I wrong?
When Rapid Hybridization resolves, Young Wolf will die and you will get a 3/3 token. Both Experiment One's evolve trigger and Young Wolf's undying trigger will go on the stack simultaneously, and you can put them on the stack in any order (see rule 603.03b). If you order them like this:

Undying
Evolve - token

then the undying resolves first, returning Young Wolf to the field as a 2/2. The first Evolve trigger hasn't resolved yet, so Experiment One is still 1/1. That means another evolve trigger goes on the stack, making the stack look like this:

Evolve - Young Wolf
Evolve - Token

The top one will resolve, making Experiment One a 2/2, then the bottom, making it a 3/3.

FlickerYourOwnIdentity

Quote from: MementoMori on May 17, 2013, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: Redrighthand on May 17, 2013, 12:16:00 PM
I don't think this quite works,  {Rapid Hybridization} would resolve before  {Young Wolf}'s undying and so the 3/3 frog would have evolved  {Experiment One} into a 2/2 and so the returning wolf, as a 2/2, would not trigger a second evolve.

Or am I wrong?
When Rapid Hybridization resolves, Young Wolf will die and you will get a 3/3 token. Both Experiment One's evolve trigger and Young Wolf's undying trigger will go on the stack simultaneously, and you can put them on the stack in any order (see rule 603.03b). If you order them like this:

Undying
Evolve - token

then the undying resolves first, returning Young Wolf to the field as a 2/2. The first Evolve trigger hasn't resolved yet, so Experiment One is still 1/1. That means another evolve trigger goes on the stack, making the stack look like this:

Evolve - Young Wolf
Evolve - Token

The top one will resolve, making Experiment One a 2/2, then the bottom, making it a 3/3.
Thank you for the explanation!  +1 :)

Redrighthand

I had the orders wrong. Thanks for straightening me out 😃