Debate thread.

[Monrodesign]

{Piotr} your doing an awesome job btw, forget the haters.

[Xaol]

Maybe this Debate thread is a little too destructive. I thought we were having a friendly debate... I personally was not offended by any of the comments thrown at me.

I'm personally offended by this lie:

Don't bother with objective facts. Piotr dismisses as irrelevant them when they run divergent to his point of view.

Understandable. I think personal slights shouldn't be used in arguments, to be honest, and the same with accusing/name calling. I think that kind of goes for the two of you, though.

Can I have an example of me doing to KangaRod what he did to me, please?

Well you've accused Kanga of lying, and he's accused you of being infantile. You also said I was lying when I stated facts on the Fed.
Just these kinds of things. Personally I think that calling you infantile or ignorant is worse than you accusing others of lying, but I don't want to get involved in the conflict between the two of you.

I believe I called your thesis a lie, and defined the thesis that I believe to be true, and then later you said that that you are not offended by this. Are you offended now?

Then KangaRod called me a liar (I don't remember being called infantile though ;), assuming he meant good rather than simply insulting me with the word, I assumed that he called a lie on my thesis.

He provided a link which in no way whatsoever proves my thesis false, at which point (it took a while to read the article) I assumed that he was simply trying to insult me, hence I called a lie on his thesis that my thesis was false. True or false?

I also called a lie that I'm not bothered with objective facts. I provide this forum and its law as my testimony :P

Oh no! Don't get me wrong; I'm not offended by you saying that! The rest of what you said I agree with, that's the way it went down.

[Piotr]

I'd like to respectfully suggest that we either:
Delete the thread
Resolve in another thread
Resolve over private messages between you and Kanga.
Cheers.

As a kindly reminder to someone who aspires to become a moderator of this forum, you never delete threads like this one. People do not post to have their posts deleted, they do not want this to be done to them. Makes sense?

[Piotr]

{Piotr} your doing an awesome job btw, forget the haters.

I'm just trying to have fun, is all :D

[Xaol]

I'd like to respectfully suggest that we either:
Delete the thread
Resolve in another thread
Resolve over private messages between you and Kanga.
Cheers.

As a kindly reminder to someone who aspires to become a moderator of this forum, you never delete threads like this one. People do not post to have their posts deleted, they do not want this to be done to them. Makes sense?

Thank you. That's the way to look at it, then. I was under the impression that if feelings were getting hurt, it merits deletion, but now I know. Cheers!

[MuggyWuggy]

I'm not reading the prior 7 pages.
Penne noodles, I hate them! Debate!

I'm for Penne. When you have pasta you have so many choices for shape/texture. I find spaghetti boring and usually wrong with ratio of sauce to pasta. Often the pasta drops and can make a bite less desirable as you stab for the same bite again.

Penne provides enough space inside to round up sauce, yet also allow it to be compressed further when picked up with a fork, resulting in better bites, more filling bites and ease of gathering pasta compared to the old stab and twirl for spaghetti.

Elbow noodles? :) love it for goolash.

Hey man, this debate is about Penne and it's pros an cons, not preferred pasta.

Penne beats elbow Mac hands down as more sauce can easily flow through it, enhancing flavor

Bring it on!!!!

[Piotr]

I'd like to respectfully suggest that we either:
Delete the thread
Resolve in another thread
Resolve over private messages between you and Kanga.
Cheers.

As a kindly reminder to someone who aspires to become a moderator of this forum, you never delete threads like this one. People do not post to have their posts deleted, they do not want this to be done to them. Makes sense?

Thank you. That's the way to look at it, then. I was under the impression that if feelings were getting hurt, it merits deletion, but now I know. Cheers!

If you can prove that a poster broke the law, his posts may be deleted as punishment if that would be logical punishment for his crime. To delete a thread you would have to prove and punish all the posters of the thread. Possible but very unlikely ;)

[Xaol]

I'd like to respectfully suggest that we either:
Delete the thread
Resolve in another thread
Resolve over private messages between you and Kanga.
Cheers.

As a kindly reminder to someone who aspires to become a moderator of this forum, you never delete threads like this one. People do not post to have their posts deleted, they do not want this to be done to them. Makes sense?

Thank you. That's the way to look at it, then. I was under the impression that if feelings were getting hurt, it merits deletion, but now I know. Cheers!

If you can prove that a poster broke the law, his posts may be deleted as punishment if that would be logical punishment for his crime. To delete a thread you would have to prove and punish all the posters of the thread. Possible but very unlikely ;)

I see. So it actually takes quite a bit to delete a thread, then.

[whitedrake]

I'm not reading the prior 7 pages.
Penne noodles, I hate them! Debate!

I'm for Penne. When you have pasta you have so many choices for shape/texture. I find spaghetti boring and usually wrong with ratio of sauce to pasta. Often the pasta drops and can make a bite less desirable as you stab for the same bite again.

Penne provides enough space inside to round up sauce, yet also allow it to be compressed further when picked up with a fork, resulting in better bites, more filling bites and ease of gathering pasta compared to the old stab and twirl for spaghetti.

Elbow noodles? :) love it for goolash.

Hey man, this debate is about Penne and it's pros an cons, not preferred pasta.

Penne beats elbow Mac hands down as more sauce can easily flow through it, enhancing flavor

Bring it on!!!!

You are all buzzing off your nut!!! Tagliatelle is King of pasta!!!! Carbonara sauce and bacon you can't beat it!!!

Oh guys you are totaly wrong about that... The best pasta ever are fusilli... Bolognese or Carbonara... Or with stripped roasted sirloin, beschamel sauce and Parmigiano on top...:)

[MuggyWuggy]

This isn't pasta opinion. This is penne debate!

Besides fettuccini is the best pasta.

[Xaol]

I'm a real sucker for Angel's Hair myself. Pretty rare that I find it, though.

[Rass]

I'm a real sucker for Angel's Hair myself. Pretty rare that I find it, though.

Check the pasta aisle at your local grocery store

                             Or

http://www.soap.com/p/hodgson-mill-gluten-free-brown-rice-pasta-all-natural-angel-hair-w-milled-flaxseed-297165?site=CA&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=cpc_S&utm_term=ZQB-17397B&utm_campaign=GoogleAW&CAWELAID=1323241939&utm_content=pla&adtype=pla&cagpspn=pla#

[Xaol]

I'm a real sucker for Angel's Hair myself. Pretty rare that I find it, though.

Check the pasta aisle at your local grocery store

                             Or

http://www.soap.com/p/hodgson-mill-gluten-free-brown-rice-pasta-all-natural-angel-hair-w-milled-flaxseed-297165?site=CA&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=cpc_S&utm_term=ZQB-17397B&utm_campaign=GoogleAW&CAWELAID=1323241939&utm_content=pla&adtype=pla&cagpspn=pla#

Words cannot describe how much I love you right now.

[Piotr]

I was talking about the digital destruction of money, through the raising of interests rates.

If you want to talk about digital money creation it's only fair to talk about digital money destruction as well. If we're going to talk about paper money destruction, then lets talk about paper money creation, but interchanging between them is comparing apples to oranges, and that's exactly what you're doing right now.

People get concerned about the Federal Reserve printing money because they don't understand how the Fed can "unprint" money. However, by raising the Fed funds rate and other constrictive monetary policy measures, the Fed can dry up liquidity. This has the same effect as taking money out of circulation.

You called me liar because I said this: the truth is that physical destruction of paper money is insignificant to the amount of money printed in digital form. It was always about digital and paper money printing. Taking money out of circulation is not at all destroying money. The money is there, sinked into Wall Street bubble and housing bubble and whatnot. It can explain why the inflation is low, but it doesn't logically prove my thesis false. And in no way it proves false the original thesis of BB, that we print more money created from debt to repay debt, to repay debt, ...

Edit: furthermore, showing that something 'can' be done withouth showing that it is 'being' done is useless for the purpose of disproving something which is clearly being done. We print more money than we destroy and the fact that we 'can' unprint it, doesn't undo the fact that we 'do' print more money to repay debt, which puts us deeper in the debt with each printing (or 'quantative easing' if you want to be politically correct).

[Birdbrain]

I was talking about the digital destruction of money, through the raising of interests rates.

If you want to talk about digital money creation it's only fair to talk about digital money destruction as well. If we're going to talk about paper money destruction, then lets talk about paper money creation, but interchanging between them is comparing apples to oranges, and that's exactly what you're doing right now.

People get concerned about the Federal Reserve printing money because they don't understand how the Fed can "unprint" money. However, by raising the Fed funds rate and other constrictive monetary policy measures, the Fed can dry up liquidity. This has the same effect as taking money out of circulation.

You called me liar because I said this: the truth is that physical destruction of paper money is insignificant to the amount of money printed in digital form. It was always about digital and paper money printing. Taking money out of circulation is not at all destroying money. The money is there, sinked into Wall Street bubble and housing bubble and whatnot. It can explain why the inflation is low, but it doesn't logically prove my thesis false. And in no way it proves false the original thesis of BB, that we print more money created from debt to repay debt, to repay debt, ...

"we"? I thought you lived in...some country were the Vikings lived