Master of cruelties spoiled

Started by MarduArrow, April 09, 2013, 12:23:18 AM

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MarduArrow

{master of cruelties} + {Kaalia of the Vast} possible gg?

Iandtormentor

Quote from: S717 on April 09, 2013, 12:23:18 AM
{master of cruelties} + {Kaalia of the Vast} possible gg?

{master of cruelties}+{Bloodgift Demon}=gg

MarduArrow

That too, but if you cheat him in with kaalia and your opponent has no blockers, is it gg or do they have 1 life left?

FlickerYourOwnIdentity

Quote from: S717 on April 09, 2013, 12:23:18 AM
{master of cruelties} + {Kaalia of the Vast} possible gg?
Master can only attack alone, so this doesn't work.

I already posted this in general, but {Artful Dodge}, {Bloodgift Demon}, Master

MarduArrow

Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on April 09, 2013, 12:42:10 AM
Quote from: S717 on April 09, 2013, 12:23:18 AM
{master of cruelties} + {Kaalia of the Vast} possible gg?
Master can only attack alone, so this doesn't work.

I already posted this in general, but {Artful Dodge}, {Bloodgift Demon}, Master

Technically tho he doesn't attack, kaalia does and then he gets put on the battlefield attacking

Vyse

 {Kaalia of the Vast} does work actually, head rules dude was just asked and he said yes on twitter.

MarduArrow

Quote from: Vyse on April 09, 2013, 03:50:10 AM
{Kaalia of the Vast} does work actually, head rules dude was just asked and he said yes on twitter.

So in this situation, does kaalia's combat damage happen to the player before or after their life total becomes 1

Keyeto

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Quote from: S717 on April 09, 2013, 09:58:15 AM
Quote from: Vyse on April 09, 2013, 03:50:10 AM
{Kaalia of the Vast} does work actually, head rules dude was just asked and he said yes on twitter.

So in this situation, does kaalia's combat damage happen to the player before or after their life total becomes 1
Before. Combat damage is dealt before any triggers based off damage occur.

Edit: Actually, I believe this does work. He doesn't need to deal damage, he just needs to attack and not be blocked. Lemme need over the rules for a bit. It's hard when the rulings for cards don't exist yet, but I can at least give an informed opinion!

Keyeto

And here's the verdict:

It works! This rule here applies, during the Declare Blockers Step, before combat damage is dealt:

509.4g An ability that reads "Whenever [this creature] attacks and isn't blocked, ..." triggers if no creatures are declared as blockers for that creature. It won't trigger if the attacking creature is blocked and then all its blockers are removed from combat.

Jackson get out

Quote from: S717 on April 09, 2013, 12:23:18 AM
{master of cruelties} + {Kaalia of the Vast} possible gg?
How does this combo win you the game I'm not following it at all! Help 😭

Keyeto

Quote from: Jackson get out on April 09, 2013, 11:33:16 AM
Quote from: S717 on April 09, 2013, 12:23:18 AM
{master of cruelties} + {Kaalia of the Vast} possible gg?
How does this combo win you the game I'm not following it at all! Help 😭
Ignore the links, Master of Cruelties isn't in the database yet. The master reduces the opponents life to 0 if it attacks and is not blocked.

Jackson get out


Keyeto

Quote from: Jackson get out on April 09, 2013, 12:05:27 PM
Oh dang that card sounds op!
I honestly think it goes against the rules, since he's never declared as an attacker, and "when this card attacks" is dependent on being declared an attacker, but if the head judge says it works, I suppose it works.

Jackson get out

Quote from: Keyeto on April 09, 2013, 12:10:35 PM
Quote from: Jackson get out on April 09, 2013, 12:05:27 PM
Oh dang that card sounds op!
I honestly think it goes against the rules, since he's never declared as an attacker, and "when this card attacks" is dependent on being declared an attacker, but if the head judge says it works, I suppose it works.
Yea that's true! Do you think he will be worth a lot then?

FlickerYourOwnIdentity

It will be I little above decent.