Something we haven't done yet...

[Dudecore]

Apes would be green, thus on the nature side. Sphinx's, Merfolk and Humans (some) would be on the side of progress.

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

Apes would be green, thus on the nature side. Sphinx's, Merfolk and Humans (some) would be on the side of progress.

Ok I completely forgot about the sphinxs.  What about wizards???

[Dudecore]

Wizards are not a creature type. They're usually subtypes. Like Human Wizard, Vedalken Wizard, Merfolk Wizard.

Progress can create things like Illusions and Spirits for the purpose of getting what they want.

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

Wizards are not a creature type. They're usually subtypes. Like Human Wizard, Vedalken Wizard, Merfolk Wizard.

Progress can create things like Illusions and Spirits for the purpose of getting what they want.

I can see illusions, not spirits.  Again we come back to the fact, do we bring back traps?!?

Read set 1 story to understand...

[ntheawsome]

Wizards are not a creature type. They're usually subtypes. Like Human Wizard, Vedalken Wizard, Merfolk Wizard.

Progress can create things like Illusions and Spirits for the purpose of getting what they want.

I can see illusions, not spirits.  Again we come back to the fact, do we bring back traps?!?

Read set 1 story to understand...

We most definitely should bring back traps. Nothing beats that "oh s**t" moment when you opponent spings a trap.

[Birdbrain]

Gorillas have the intelegence for progress side though. Although they would be on natures side

Just pointing out though that they are a lot smarter than we think

players enjoy all types of creature types.

my point exactly. Part of the reason I came up with a mechanic that rewards that behavior

Nature has diverse species of animals
Progress would have diverse view points and ideas from different species

And I think green could be on progresses side, as well as blue in natures. Part of te reason I think we should get the ratio example from the scars block. Otherwise, we'd be dredging through unknown territory

[Dudecore]

Gorillas have the intelegence for progress side though. Although they would be on natures side

Just pointing out though that they are a lot smarter than we think

players enjoy all types of creature types.

my point exactly. Part of the reason I came up with a mechanic that rewards that behavior

Nature has diverse species of animals
Progress would have diverse view points and ideas from different species

And I think green could be on progresses side, as well as blue in natures. Part of te reason I think we should get the ratio example from the scars block. Otherwise, we'd be dredging through unknown territory

I disagree on most counts.

I don't think control players should suffer because they run fewer creatures, I don't think blue cares very much about creature types, a mechanic that is tied to who is on the battlefield - what about removal? I mean, we all play this game, how often do you have 2 or more creatures out?

While gorillas are intelligent, you can say similar things about most terrestrial species. Gorillas however are primal, they're naive to quest for knowledge.

Green is not on the side of progress, Blue will never be on the side of nature. If that's true, just throw the color pie in the garbage and make any cards you want. Part of using the color pie is restrictions, they breed creativity. They make you work harder, it keeps you honest.

[Birdbrain]

I said Gorrila's are on the side of nature, just pointing out they are intelegent

I guess if Ecobound gets choosen it should be designed simalr to metalcraft? Guess it should go on creatures that are just fine on there own, yet not broken in there hyped state

Edit: if your worried about tutors. Know that I kind of think they make games boring, an don't plan on making any. One option are cards that could produce a 1/1 token of three different creature type choices

[Iandtormentor]

Mmmm, so when does the voting end

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

When the tie breaks, and that thread loses intrest.

[Birdbrain]

Dudecore could be the tie breaker. Although I think he would vote for divergence. Read his last post

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

Dudecore could be the tie breaker. Although I think he would vote for divergence. Read his last post

Hey we don't know until we finish it.

[Iandtormentor]

When the tie breaks, and that thread loses intrest.

Ok, can I pm some people to try and get em to vote?

[Birdbrain]

When the tie breaks, and that thread loses intrest.

Ok, can I pm some people to try and get em to vote?

sure I did that. Just don't influence there vote...hey wait a miunet. I said I'd vote if there was a tie

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

As long as you don't tell them what to vote for, and if they've commented on this thread.  That way we know they've been somewhat involved.