Dragon's Maze (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)

[Death Gaara]

Accusing someone of complaining when they're just voicing their opinion is usually a sign that you have no valid argument. I agree with everything DG and DC have said. Aggro has made for a stale environment. FNM is no longer fun because as soon as you hear "Turn one, I play {stomping ground}/{sacred foundry}," you know exactly what you're in for. Aggro (like net decks) have their place in Magic, but should Wizards cater to it and ban unnecessary things? Absolutely not. Magic is turning into Star Wars. Where else have you seen such a rabid fan base turn against the creator of its passion? I haven't seen it since the very first time Lucas retouched Star Wars in '98 or '99. That's starting to happen in Magic.

Tl;dr Leave what we love alone and stop changing the fundamentals of it to cater to one group.

In all fairness to those people, have you SEEN The Phantom Menace? It's purely one of the worst movies ever made, it failed on every single level, George Lucas or not - it was a career ender.

Also, Magic has never been more popular - I've also never seen this much resistance to Wizafds of the Coast. As far as I'm aware, they're the only thing really keeping Hasbro afloat financially - and Hasbro allegedly strip mines all the money from Wizards and leaves them with very small budgets and pushes them towards making powerful cards at mythic.

Oh no, I was talking about when he added stuff to the originals. Bigger explosion of the Deathstar, Greedo shot first, putting Jabba in the first one, changing the names to Episodes 4, 5, and 6. Episodes 1, 2, and 3 were garbage.

While I agree, to be fair at least 3 was watchable. Not great, but at least it was decent enough to watch. My favorite happens to be The Empire Strikes Back.

[Dudecore]

In the interest of slightly changing this unpopular subject: could you take 3 attack phases if you used {Aurelia, the Warleader}, then used {Legion Initiative} between attack phases?

It works with {Cloudshift}, so I see no reason it wouldn't work here. When a creature is exiled and comes back, it is considered a new object, as if it had just entered the battlefield for the first time.

Edit: And time to eat my words. It wouldn't work, since you can only activate it at sorcery speed, and you cannot cast sorceries during the combat step.

Sweet. That is some tasty winmore.

Also, I don't think this card will be all that amazingly good in a Boros aggro deck, it forces those decks to keep 2 mana open, and sets the clock back a turn too far. {Boros Charm} is a better choice for those decks, the 4 face damage =/= anthem effect. Legion Initiative just really ratchets up mid-range and puts them too far out of controls wheel house.

Also, don't think this card will see much play - I for see the wrath players leaving town en masse. As DG stated, it's a principle thing. It's not a good thing when the creators have a resentment for members of their audience. I'm talking to you George Lucas.

Edit: where is this sorcery speed thing coming from? You can activate the abilities on Enchantments at instant speed.

[Death Gaara]

In the interest of slightly changing this unpopular subject: could you take 3 attack phases if you used {Aurelia, the Warleader}, then used {Legion Initiative} between attack phases?

It works with {Cloudshift}, so I see no reason it wouldn't work here. When a creature is exiled and comes back, it is considered a new object, as if it had just entered the battlefield for the first time.

Edit: And time to eat my words. It wouldn't work, since you can only activate it at sorcery speed, and you cannot cast sorceries during the combat step.

Sweet. That is some tasty winmore.

Also, I don't think this card will be all that amazingly good in a Boros aggro deck, it forces those decks to keep 2 mana open, and sets the clock back a turn too far. {Boros Charm} is a better choice for those decks, the 4 face damage =/= anthem effect. Legion Initiative just really ratchets up mid-range and puts them too far out of controls wheel house.

Also, don't think this card will see much play - I for see the wrath players leaving town en masse. As DG stated, it's a principle thing. It's not a good thing when the creators have a resentment for members of their audience. I'm talking to you George Lucas.

Can anybody say the Avengers Initiative? We have Superfriends decks, so why not the Avengers too? And for those that wonder, I am a Batman guy. So it is not just fanboy lusting for a Marvel deck. I just want to do this with Auraelia and say welcome to the Avengers Initiative! Please stand by as we crush you! I sense very much laughter at the EDH table. . .I need to find a way to make this work.

[Mikefrompluto]

Accusing someone of complaining when they're just voicing their opinion is usually a sign that you have no valid argument. I agree with everything DG and DC have said. Aggro has made for a stale environment. FNM is no longer fun because as soon as you hear "Turn one, I play {stomping ground}/{sacred foundry}," you know exactly what you're in for. Aggro (like net decks) have their place in Magic, but should Wizards cater to it and ban unnecessary things? Absolutely not. Magic is turning into Star Wars. Where else have you seen such a rabid fan base turn against the creator of its passion? I haven't seen it since the very first time Lucas retouched Star Wars in '98 or '99. That's starting to happen in Magic.

Tl;dr Leave what we love alone and stop changing the fundamentals of it to cater to one group.

In all fairness to those people, have you SEEN The Phantom Menace? It's purely one of the worst movies ever made, it failed on every single level, George Lucas or not - it was a career ender.

Also, Magic has never been more popular - I've also never seen this much resistance to Wizafds of the Coast. As far as I'm aware, they're the only thing really keeping Hasbro afloat financially - and Hasbro allegedly strip mines all the money from Wizards and leaves them with very small budgets and pushes them towards making powerful cards at mythic.

Oh no, I was talking about when he added stuff to the originals. Bigger explosion of the Deathstar, Greedo shot first, putting Jabba in the first one, changing the names to Episodes 4, 5, and 6. Episodes 1, 2, and 3 were garbage.

While I agree, to be fair at least 3 was watchable. Not great, but at least it was decent enough to watch. My favorite happens to be The Empire Strikes Back.

I can agree with that. It certainly hardens back (forward?) to the darkness that Empire had. I would feel better about the new ones if instead of saying "I always meant to have a prequel trilogy to Star Wars" he said "Im doing this for the money." I certainly wouldn't be as harsh against him or his empire. At least he wouldn't be making veiled excuses to wanting more money in his bank account.

[Keyeto]

In the interest of slightly changing this unpopular subject: could you take 3 attack phases if you used {Aurelia, the Warleader}, then used {Legion Initiative} between attack phases?

It works with {Cloudshift}, so I see no reason it wouldn't work here. When a creature is exiled and comes back, it is considered a new object, as if it had just entered the battlefield for the first time.

Edit: And time to eat my words. It wouldn't work, since you can only activate it at sorcery speed, and you cannot cast sorceries during the combat step.

Sweet. That is some tasty winmore.

Also, I don't think this card will be all that amazingly good in a Boros aggro deck, it forces those decks to keep 2 mana open, and sets the clock back a turn too far. {Boros Charm} is a better choice for those decks, the 4 face damage =/= anthem effect. Legion Initiative just really ratchets up mid-range and puts them too far out of controls wheel house.

Also, don't think this card will see much play - I for see the wrath players leaving town en masse. As DG stated, it's a principle thing. It's not a good thing when the creators have a resentment for members of their audience. I'm talking to you George Lucas.

Edit: where is this sorcery speed thing coming from? You can activate the abilities on Enchantments at instant speed.

Whoops, I thought someone said it was a sorcery speed deal, but yeah, the card doesn't say that, so nevermind. Should have read the card again. It works!

[Death Gaara]

Accusing someone of complaining when they're just voicing their opinion is usually a sign that you have no valid argument. I agree with everything DG and DC have said. Aggro has made for a stale environment. FNM is no longer fun because as soon as you hear "Turn one, I play {stomping ground}/{sacred foundry}," you know exactly what you're in for. Aggro (like net decks) have their place in Magic, but should Wizards cater to it and ban unnecessary things? Absolutely not. Magic is turning into Star Wars. Where else have you seen such a rabid fan base turn against the creator of its passion? I haven't seen it since the very first time Lucas retouched Star Wars in '98 or '99. That's starting to happen in Magic.

Tl;dr Leave what we love alone and stop changing the fundamentals of it to cater to one group.

In all fairness to those people, have you SEEN The Phantom Menace? It's purely one of the worst movies ever made, it failed on every single level, George Lucas or not - it was a career ender.

Also, Magic has never been more popular - I've also never seen this much resistance to Wizafds of the Coast. As far as I'm aware, they're the only thing really keeping Hasbro afloat financially - and Hasbro allegedly strip mines all the money from Wizards and leaves them with very small budgets and pushes them towards making powerful cards at mythic.

Oh no, I was talking about when he added stuff to the originals. Bigger explosion of the Deathstar, Greedo shot first, putting Jabba in the first one, changing the names to Episodes 4, 5, and 6. Episodes 1, 2, and 3 were garbage.

While I agree, to be fair at least 3 was watchable. Not great, but at least it was decent enough to watch. My favorite happens to be The Empire Strikes Back.

I can agree with that. It certainly hardens back (forward?) to the darkness that Empire had. I would feel better about the new ones if instead of saying "I always meant to have a prequel trilogy to Star Wars" he said "Im doing this for the money." I certainly wouldn't be as harsh against him or his empire. At least he wouldn't be making veiled excuses to wanting more money in his bank account.

You think Lucas is bad? Wait until Disney releases 7, 8, and 9. I cannot wait to see how this turns out. Although Disney also owns Marvel and Avengers turned out well, I cannot fathom the idea of Leia being a Disney Princess. The only good thing that could come from this is a possible Star Wars level in a future Kingdom Hearts game (as if they release those anymore lol).

[Quackmaster5]

I plee the fifth on this one. This is why I never play any type of format besides casual. My purpose for playing is creativity and fun. I have been playing for years now and been a part of this forum for a while. I feel that I rarely give my two sense when it comes to standard bc I don't know alot about it. But from what I've gathered of the conversation taking place, it seems like the only viable solution is to make the choice. Play standard or don't play standard? People are constantly complaining about how one deck dominates over everything and then that same person will go out and try to build a better version of the SAME EXACT CONCEPT! How ridiculous does that sound? Talk about hypocritical. I know, as a homebrew deck maker, I am always open to criticism on my decks, but I never make any changes unless I truly feel them myself. I never want to copy another persons deck. It's like cheating. But from what I've experienced and head, that's all standard is. Just an excuse to waste money on a few cards that hold some value for a year. And this applies to most formats.

I completely agree with DG though. I started playing back in Time Spiral and i remember that no one deck type ruled. Control and blue had their own thing. Aggro had its thing. And the two concepts never stayed in power long because WoTC never played favorites. I remember also in the Shards block, since there were so many variants of deck types, it was impossoble to plan and sideboard for all of them, which made the games interesting. This is what is lacking in the new formats. The cards in these blocks take the variety out of the players hands. These cards make too many choices for players when it should be the other way around. I used to be an Aggro player, but I've slowly broadened my view towards magic the past few years. I started off as an Aggro player, which made it easy to ease my way into the game, but I was able to see other variants that worked to give me options. New players today don't have those options. They wouldn't last in FNM if they tried switching to control and they would get turned off by the game. It is Wizards that foresaw this, but executed it in the worst way possible. Especially in RTR block. The RTR set was seen as an amazing set by experienced players bc the guilds involved actually required skill and the cards put the power back in players hands and the game wasn't so routine. But there was no Aggro. Wizards made the stupid decision to put TWO AGGRO GUILDS IN THE SAME SET!!!! How dumb is that! They used no thought into the cards they made for GC. And like father like son, players put no thought into their decks. And with a very Aggro-esque block like Innistrad with little to no control, they are just feeding the concept of new players should start with Aggro. WHAT IF A NEW PLAYER WANTED TO PLAY CONTROL? What if a player enters the game and favors blue type styles. This would be a 💩 representation of what this game is. This game used to have balance in each block. Players weren't afraid to branch out. But for two blocks in a row, wizards has decided what new players should be playing and not what they FEEL like playing. DG puts it perfectly. It is not the argument over Aggro vs Control and what to do about it. It's the fact that Wizards is trying to play the game for us by pushing things on us. Wizards wants us to play turn sideways, that's fine. But this is one of the many reasons why I never played standard and would never suggest it to anyone. Standard now is not what standard used to be. Standard now is decided before you even create a deck. Standard is a brainwashed way to play the game. And I pity those who only play that way because they cannot look past winning and sideboarding to the true value of the game: inspiration and creativity. That concept is lost amongst new players. And this is why we see the bratty, "mommy paid for my whole deck" kids at FNM because they are trained in school to find the easiest process to solve their problems. That's where magic turns into standardized testing and only conforming to a single idea.

Btw, I am a teacher and I did just say that students are trained. This is an example against standardized testing and F*** dat 💩!!!!

Btw squared, I know I said I pleed the fifth, but that was a lie.

[Dudecore]

Accusing someone of complaining when they're just voicing their opinion is usually a sign that you have no valid argument. I agree with everything DG and DC have said. Aggro has made for a stale environment. FNM is no longer fun because as soon as you hear "Turn one, I play {stomping ground}/{sacred foundry}," you know exactly what you're in for. Aggro (like net decks) have their place in Magic, but should Wizards cater to it and ban unnecessary things? Absolutely not. Magic is turning into Star Wars. Where else have you seen such a rabid fan base turn against the creator of its passion? I haven't seen it since the very first time Lucas retouched Star Wars in '98 or '99. That's starting to happen in Magic.

Tl;dr Leave what we love alone and stop changing the fundamentals of it to cater to one group.

In all fairness to those people, have you SEEN The Phantom Menace? It's purely one of the worst movies ever made, it failed on every single level, George Lucas or not - it was a career ender.

Also, Magic has never been more popular - I've also never seen this much resistance to Wizafds of the Coast. As far as I'm aware, they're the only thing really keeping Hasbro afloat financially - and Hasbro allegedly strip mines all the money from Wizards and leaves them with very small budgets and pushes them towards making powerful cards at mythic.

Oh no, I was talking about when he added stuff to the originals. Bigger explosion of the Deathstar, Greedo shot first, putting Jabba in the first one, changing the names to Episodes 4, 5, and 6. Episodes 1, 2, and 3 were garbage.

While I agree, to be fair at least 3 was watchable. Not great, but at least it was decent enough to watch. My favorite happens to be The Empire Strikes Back.

I can agree with that. It certainly hardens back (forward?) to the darkness that Empire had. I would feel better about the new ones if instead of saying "I always meant to have a prequel trilogy to Star Wars" he said "Im doing this for the money." I certainly wouldn't be as harsh against him or his empire. At least he wouldn't be making veiled excuses to wanting more money in his bank account.

You think Lucas is bad? Wait until Disney releases 7, 8, and 9. I cannot wait to see how this turns out. Although Disney also owns Marvel and Avengers turned out well, I cannot fathom the idea of Leia being a Disney Princess. The only good thing that could come from this is a possible Star Wars level in a future Kingdom Hearts game (as if they release those anymore lol).

It has promise. Disney turned an amusement park ride into a crap-billion dollar movie franchise (Pirates of the Caribbean). JJ Abrams at very least gives more then 0 effort to films, uses real sets and actors. None of that could be said about Lucas and the prequel trilogy.

And Revenege of the Sith will always suck because of how Anakin became Darth Vader. He was tricked into it by Darth Sidious and fought with Obi Wan for seemingly no reason other then putting him in the suit. NOOOOOOOOOO!!

[Quackmaster5]

Accusing someone of complaining when they're just voicing their opinion is usually a sign that you have no valid argument. I agree with everything DG and DC have said. Aggro has made for a stale environment. FNM is no longer fun because as soon as you hear "Turn one, I play {stomping ground}/{sacred foundry}," you know exactly what you're in for. Aggro (like net decks) have their place in Magic, but should Wizards cater to it and ban unnecessary things? Absolutely not. Magic is turning into Star Wars. Where else have you seen such a rabid fan base turn against the creator of its passion? I haven't seen it since the very first time Lucas retouched Star Wars in '98 or '99. That's starting to happen in Magic.

Tl;dr Leave what we love alone and stop changing the fundamentals of it to cater to one group.

In all fairness to those people, have you SEEN The Phantom Menace? It's purely one of the worst movies ever made, it failed on every single level, George Lucas or not - it was a career ender.

Also, Magic has never been more popular - I've also never seen this much resistance to Wizafds of the Coast. As far as I'm aware, they're the only thing really keeping Hasbro afloat financially - and Hasbro allegedly strip mines all the money from Wizards and leaves them with very small budgets and pushes them towards making powerful cards at mythic.

Oh no, I was talking about when he added stuff to the originals. Bigger explosion of the Deathstar, Greedo shot first, putting Jabba in the first one, changing the names to Episodes 4, 5, and 6. Episodes 1, 2, and 3 were garbage.

While I agree, to be fair at least 3 was watchable. Not great, but at least it was decent enough to watch. My favorite happens to be The Empire Strikes Back.

I can agree with that. It certainly hardens back (forward?) to the darkness that Empire had. I would feel better about the new ones if instead of saying "I always meant to have a prequel trilogy to Star Wars" he said "Im doing this for the money." I certainly wouldn't be as harsh against him or his empire. At least he wouldn't be making veiled excuses to wanting more money in his bank account.

You think Lucas is bad? Wait until Disney releases 7, 8, and 9. I cannot wait to see how this turns out. Although Disney also owns Marvel and Avengers turned out well, I cannot fathom the idea of Leia being a Disney Princess. The only good thing that could come from this is a possible Star Wars level in a future Kingdom Hearts game (as if they release those anymore lol).

It has promise. Disney turned an amusement park ride into a crap-billion dollar movie franchise (Pirates of the Caribbean). JJ Abrams at very least gives more then 0 effort to films, uses real sets and actors. None of that could be said about Lucas and the prequel trilogy.

And Revenege of the Sith will always suck because of how Anakin became Darth Vader. He was tricked into it by Darth Sidious and fought with Obi Wan for seemingly no reason other then putting him in the suit. NOOOOOOOOOO!!

Hahaha I loled at this rant. We used to have a rulein my playgroup that if you played referenced something from starwars episode 1,2,3 (omg that was actually difficult to write without getting depressed), that you were the drink lady for the night.

[Death Gaara]

Accusing someone of complaining when they're just voicing their opinion is usually a sign that you have no valid argument. I agree with everything DG and DC have said. Aggro has made for a stale environment. FNM is no longer fun because as soon as you hear "Turn one, I play {stomping ground}/{sacred foundry}," you know exactly what you're in for. Aggro (like net decks) have their place in Magic, but should Wizards cater to it and ban unnecessary things? Absolutely not. Magic is turning into Star Wars. Where else have you seen such a rabid fan base turn against the creator of its passion? I haven't seen it since the very first time Lucas retouched Star Wars in '98 or '99. That's starting to happen in Magic.

Tl;dr Leave what we love alone and stop changing the fundamentals of it to cater to one group.

In all fairness to those people, have you SEEN The Phantom Menace? It's purely one of the worst movies ever made, it failed on every single level, George Lucas or not - it was a career ender.

Also, Magic has never been more popular - I've also never seen this much resistance to Wizafds of the Coast. As far as I'm aware, they're the only thing really keeping Hasbro afloat financially - and Hasbro allegedly strip mines all the money from Wizards and leaves them with very small budgets and pushes them towards making powerful cards at mythic.

Oh no, I was talking about when he added stuff to the originals. Bigger explosion of the Deathstar, Greedo shot first, putting Jabba in the first one, changing the names to Episodes 4, 5, and 6. Episodes 1, 2, and 3 were garbage.

While I agree, to be fair at least 3 was watchable. Not great, but at least it was decent enough to watch. My favorite happens to be The Empire Strikes Back.

I can agree with that. It certainly hardens back (forward?) to the darkness that Empire had. I would feel better about the new ones if instead of saying "I always meant to have a prequel trilogy to Star Wars" he said "Im doing this for the money." I certainly wouldn't be as harsh against him or his empire. At least he wouldn't be making veiled excuses to wanting more money in his bank account.

You think Lucas is bad? Wait until Disney releases 7, 8, and 9. I cannot wait to see how this turns out. Although Disney also owns Marvel and Avengers turned out well, I cannot fathom the idea of Leia being a Disney Princess. The only good thing that could come from this is a possible Star Wars level in a future Kingdom Hearts game (as if they release those anymore lol).

It has promise. Disney turned an amusement park ride into a crap-billion dollar movie franchise (Pirates of the Caribbean). JJ Abrams at very least gives more then 0 effort to films, uses real sets and actors. None of that could be said about Lucas and the prequel trilogy.

And Revenege of the Sith will always suck because of how Anakin became Darth Vader. He was tricked into it by Darth Sidious and fought with Obi Wan for seemingly no reason other then putting him in the suit. NOOOOOOOOOO!!

I agree. But like I said, it was decent enough to watch. In The Phantom Menace they try and explain the force. That was really stupid. Let's also not forget the podracing segments that was just made to sell a game. The second movie was just boring and horribly paced. At least the last one was an okay popcorn flick to go watch stuff blow up and watch a few fights every now and then. Revenge of the Sith is by no means a good movie. But at least it is like Transformers in the sense that you can turn your brain off and just watch the pretty explosions all over the screen while munching on some popcorn.

[Mikefrompluto]

Accusing someone of complaining when they're just voicing their opinion is usually a sign that you have no valid argument. I agree with everything DG and DC have said. Aggro has made for a stale environment. FNM is no longer fun because as soon as you hear "Turn one, I play {stomping ground}/{sacred foundry}," you know exactly what you're in for. Aggro (like net decks) have their place in Magic, but should Wizards cater to it and ban unnecessary things? Absolutely not. Magic is turning into Star Wars. Where else have you seen such a rabid fan base turn against the creator of its passion? I haven't seen it since the very first time Lucas retouched Star Wars in '98 or '99. That's starting to happen in Magic.

Tl;dr Leave what we love alone and stop changing the fundamentals of it to cater to one group.

In all fairness to those people, have you SEEN The Phantom Menace? It's purely one of the worst movies ever made, it failed on every single level, George Lucas or not - it was a career ender.

Also, Magic has never been more popular - I've also never seen this much resistance to Wizafds of the Coast. As far as I'm aware, they're the only thing really keeping Hasbro afloat financially - and Hasbro allegedly strip mines all the money from Wizards and leaves them with very small budgets and pushes them towards making powerful cards at mythic.

Oh no, I was talking about when he added stuff to the originals. Bigger explosion of the Deathstar, Greedo shot first, putting Jabba in the first one, changing the names to Episodes 4, 5, and 6. Episodes 1, 2, and 3 were garbage.

While I agree, to be fair at least 3 was watchable. Not great, but at least it was decent enough to watch. My favorite happens to be The Empire Strikes Back.

I can agree with that. It certainly hardens back (forward?) to the darkness that Empire had. I would feel better about the new ones if instead of saying "I always meant to have a prequel trilogy to Star Wars" he said "Im doing this for the money." I certainly wouldn't be as harsh against him or his empire. At least he wouldn't be making veiled excuses to wanting more money in his bank account.

You think Lucas is bad? Wait until Disney releases 7, 8, and 9. I cannot wait to see how this turns out. Although Disney also owns Marvel and Avengers turned out well, I cannot fathom the idea of Leia being a Disney Princess. The only good thing that could come from this is a possible Star Wars level in a future Kingdom Hearts game (as if they release those anymore lol).

It has promise. Disney turned an amusement park ride into a crap-billion dollar movie franchise (Pirates of the Caribbean). JJ Abrams at very least gives more then 0 effort to films, uses real sets and actors. None of that could be said about Lucas and the prequel trilogy.

And Revenege of the Sith will always suck because of how Anakin became Darth Vader. He was tricked into it by Darth Sidious and fought with Obi Wan for seemingly no reason other then putting him in the suit. NOOOOOOOOOO!!

I have high hopes for it solely because its JJ. From his modernized rendition of Cthulu (you can't tell me he wasnt inspired by Lovecraft when he made Cloverfield) to Star Trek (made a non-Trekkie such as myself get into the series) to my newest obsession Lost, he has never disappointed me. If anything, Disney has gotten a masterpiece out of an evil genius-wannabe's (sorry George) hands and given it to someone who has proven to be an excellent filmmaker.

Next, Disney needs to focus on getting the rights to Indiana Jones and making us forget that last movie ever happened.

[Death Gaara]

Accusing someone of complaining when they're just voicing their opinion is usually a sign that you have no valid argument. I agree with everything DG and DC have said. Aggro has made for a stale environment. FNM is no longer fun because as soon as you hear "Turn one, I play {stomping ground}/{sacred foundry}," you know exactly what you're in for. Aggro (like net decks) have their place in Magic, but should Wizards cater to it and ban unnecessary things? Absolutely not. Magic is turning into Star Wars. Where else have you seen such a rabid fan base turn against the creator of its passion? I haven't seen it since the very first time Lucas retouched Star Wars in '98 or '99. That's starting to happen in Magic.

Tl;dr Leave what we love alone and stop changing the fundamentals of it to cater to one group.

In all fairness to those people, have you SEEN The Phantom Menace? It's purely one of the worst movies ever made, it failed on every single level, George Lucas or not - it was a career ender.

Also, Magic has never been more popular - I've also never seen this much resistance to Wizafds of the Coast. As far as I'm aware, they're the only thing really keeping Hasbro afloat financially - and Hasbro allegedly strip mines all the money from Wizards and leaves them with very small budgets and pushes them towards making powerful cards at mythic.

Oh no, I was talking about when he added stuff to the originals. Bigger explosion of the Deathstar, Greedo shot first, putting Jabba in the first one, changing the names to Episodes 4, 5, and 6. Episodes 1, 2, and 3 were garbage.

While I agree, to be fair at least 3 was watchable. Not great, but at least it was decent enough to watch. My favorite happens to be The Empire Strikes Back.

I can agree with that. It certainly hardens back (forward?) to the darkness that Empire had. I would feel better about the new ones if instead of saying "I always meant to have a prequel trilogy to Star Wars" he said "Im doing this for the money." I certainly wouldn't be as harsh against him or his empire. At least he wouldn't be making veiled excuses to wanting more money in his bank account.

You think Lucas is bad? Wait until Disney releases 7, 8, and 9. I cannot wait to see how this turns out. Although Disney also owns Marvel and Avengers turned out well, I cannot fathom the idea of Leia being a Disney Princess. The only good thing that could come from this is a possible Star Wars level in a future Kingdom Hearts game (as if they release those anymore lol).

It has promise. Disney turned an amusement park ride into a crap-billion dollar movie franchise (Pirates of the Caribbean). JJ Abrams at very least gives more then 0 effort to films, uses real sets and actors. None of that could be said about Lucas and the prequel trilogy.

And Revenege of the Sith will always suck because of how Anakin became Darth Vader. He was tricked into it by Darth Sidious and fought with Obi Wan for seemingly no reason other then putting him in the suit. NOOOOOOOOOO!!

I have high hopes for it solely because its JJ. From his modernized rendition of Cthulu (you can't tell me he wasnt inspired by Lovecraft when he made Cloverfield) to Star Trek (made a non-Trekkie such as myself get into the series) to my newest obsession Lost, he has never disappointed me. If anything, Disney has gotten a masterpiece out of an evil genius-wannabe's (sorry George) hands and given it to someone who has proven to be an excellent filmmaker.

Next, Disney needs to focus on getting the rights to Indiana Jones and making us forget that last movie ever happened.

From arguing over the principles of Magic, to the debate of a ruling, to Star Wars and Pirates, and now even Indiana Jones. Men, we truly are nerds of the highest caliber. But we are proud. Why you might ask? Because nerds always have the most fun

[5/9 Turtle]

My friends and I play magic so much at school we're seeing if we can get a club next year, I truly am a nerd

[MuggyWuggy]

Accusing someone of complaining when they're just voicing their opinion is usually a sign that you have no valid argument. I agree with everything DG and DC have said. Aggro has made for a stale environment. FNM is no longer fun because as soon as you hear "Turn one, I play {stomping ground}/{sacred foundry}," you know exactly what you're in for. Aggro (like net decks) have their place in Magic, but should Wizards cater to it and ban unnecessary things? Absolutely not. Magic is turning into Star Wars. Where else have you seen such a rabid fan base turn against the creator of its passion? I haven't seen it since the very first time Lucas retouched Star Wars in '98 or '99. That's starting to happen in Magic.

Tl;dr Leave what we love alone and stop changing the fundamentals of it to cater to one group.

In all fairness to those people, have you SEEN The Phantom Menace? It's purely one of the worst movies ever made, it failed on every single level, George Lucas or not - it was a career ender.

Also, Magic has never been more popular - I've also never seen this much resistance to Wizafds of the Coast. As far as I'm aware, they're the only thing really keeping Hasbro afloat financially - and Hasbro allegedly strip mines all the money from Wizards and leaves them with very small budgets and pushes them towards making powerful cards at mythic.

Oh no, I was talking about when he added stuff to the originals. Bigger explosion of the Deathstar, Greedo shot first, putting Jabba in the first one, changing the names to Episodes 4, 5, and 6. Episodes 1, 2, and 3 were garbage.

While I agree, to be fair at least 3 was watchable. Not great, but at least it was decent enough to watch. My favorite happens to be The Empire Strikes Back.

I can agree with that. It certainly hardens back (forward?) to the darkness that Empire had. I would feel better about the new ones if instead of saying "I always meant to have a prequel trilogy to Star Wars" he said "Im doing this for the money." I certainly wouldn't be as harsh against him or his empire. At least he wouldn't be making veiled excuses to wanting more money in his bank account.

You think Lucas is bad? Wait until Disney releases 7, 8, and 9. I cannot wait to see how this turns out. Although Disney also owns Marvel and Avengers turned out well, I cannot fathom the idea of Leia being a Disney Princess. The only good thing that could come from this is a possible Star Wars level in a future Kingdom Hearts game (as if they release those anymore lol).

It has promise. Disney turned an amusement park ride into a crap-billion dollar movie franchise (Pirates of the Caribbean). JJ Abrams at very least gives more then 0 effort to films, uses real sets and actors. None of that could be said about Lucas and the prequel trilogy.

And Revenege of the Sith will always suck because of how Anakin became Darth Vader. He was tricked into it by Darth Sidious and fought with Obi Wan for seemingly no reason other then putting him in the suit. NOOOOOOOOOO!!

I have high hopes for it solely because its JJ. From his modernized rendition of Cthulu (you can't tell me he wasnt inspired by Lovecraft when he made Cloverfield) to Star Trek (made a non-Trekkie such as myself get into the series) to my newest obsession Lost, he has never disappointed me. If anything, Disney has gotten a masterpiece out of an evil genius-wannabe's (sorry George) hands and given it to someone who has proven to be an excellent filmmaker.

Next, Disney needs to focus on getting the rights to Indiana Jones and making us forget that last movie ever happened.

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