Dragon's Maze (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)

Started by Dudecore, March 12, 2013, 03:53:44 PM

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Wackaman9001

Any idea who the leaders are? Also, weren't we supposed to get more commander decks?

FlickerYourOwnIdentity

No I think next is commanders top 20??

Or is it 10...

It's the commanders top "something"

MarduArrow

Render Silent         {W}{U}{U}

Instant   
Counter target spell. Its controller can't cast spells this turn.

izik99

Quote from: S717 on April 05, 2013, 05:49:54 PM
Render Silent         {W}{U}{U}

Instant   
Counter target spell. Its controller can't cast spells this turn.

If that's real, I'm soo angry at Wizards.

MarduArrow

Quote from: izik99 on April 05, 2013, 06:46:15 PM
Quote from: S717 on April 05, 2013, 05:49:54 PM
Render Silent         {W}{U}{U}

Instant   
Counter target spell. Its controller can't cast spells this turn.

If that's real, I'm soo angry at Wizards.

Saw it on salvation

Dudecore

Spoiler season begins on MONDAY! Who is excited?

Keyeto

Quote from: Dudecore on April 05, 2013, 10:49:00 PM
Spoiler season begins on MONDAY! Who is excited?
I am, I am! Really hoping to see some actual decent Dimir cards. And I'm very curious about the champions.

Dudecore

Quote from: izik99 on April 05, 2013, 06:46:15 PM
Quote from: S717 on April 05, 2013, 05:49:54 PM
Render Silent         {W}{U}{U}

Instant   
Counter target spell. Its controller can't cast spells this turn.

If that's real, I'm soo angry at Wizards.

It is real. I'll save my reservations until I actually play it. So far, it seems like a great equalizer vs. uncounterable control decks. The cost is a bit steep so we will see how it plays.

Split second judgement: Meh.

Wackaman9001

I think that card is breakable. Starting T3 you can effectively shut down your opponents deck, longer if you run recursion like {snapcaster Mage} and {archaeomancer}. At the least you can use it to slow them until you can set up. It gives Esper yet another threat, but at least it is counterable

Dudecore

Quote from: Wackaman9001 on April 05, 2013, 11:04:00 PM
I think that card is breakable. Starting T3 you can effectively shut down your opponents deck, longer if you run recursion like {snapcaster Mage} and {archaeomancer}. At the least you can use it to slow them until you can set up. It gives Esper yet another threat, but at least it is counterable

I don't know if it will be used for that purpose. {Snapcaster Mage} is working his way out of decks, recursion is becoming less useful because of aggro is coming too fast and heavy. It may gain some tempo in the Esper decks? I want to play with it first. It looks like a halfway decent counter to stifle {Cavern of Souls} and Naya Human decks that pump out uncounterable creatures constantly. 3 mana puts too far from being effective early game - but not a horrible option after a board wipe.

I'd really like to just play test with it for some time, see how good it really is. I put it below {Dissipate} for now, but that is going to rotate eventually.

Vyse

Quote from: Dudecore on April 05, 2013, 10:55:46 PM
Quote from: izik99 on April 05, 2013, 06:46:15 PM
Quote from: S717 on April 05, 2013, 05:49:54 PM
Render Silent         {W}{U}{U}

Instant   
Counter target spell. Its controller can't cast spells this turn.

If that's real, I'm soo angry at Wizards.

It is real. I'll save my reservations until I actually play it. So far, it seems like a great equalizer vs. uncounterable control decks. The cost is a bit steep so we will see how it plays.

Split second judgement: Meh.
I'm not so sure I agree with the steep cost.  {Counterspell} for 2 blue and  {Silence} for 1 white, with it rolled all into one card I'd say they are being generous by not adding a colorless. It's not amazing, but it's still a 2fer1.

Wackaman9001

People playing 3 colors dislike needing 1 of a color and 2 of another to cast a spell. It's like {Boros reckoner} in orzhov, it essentially becomes {W}{W}{W}, not too easy to get immediately

Harmon74

Quote from: S717 on April 05, 2013, 05:49:54 PM
Render Silent         {W}{U}{U}

Instant   
Counter target spell. Its controller can't cast spells this turn.
I think this card will get some standard constructed play, but I think it's real value is in modern vs. storm decks.

Harmon74

Quote from: Vyse on April 06, 2013, 12:54:06 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on April 05, 2013, 10:55:46 PM
Quote from: izik99 on April 05, 2013, 06:46:15 PM
Quote from: S717 on April 05, 2013, 05:49:54 PM
Render Silent         {W}{U}{U}

Instant   
Counter target spell. Its controller can't cast spells this turn.

If that's real, I'm soo angry at Wizards.

It is real. I'll save my reservations until I actually play it. So far, it seems like a great equalizer vs. uncounterable control decks. The cost is a bit steep so we will see how it plays.

Split second judgement: Meh.
I'm not so sure I agree with the steep cost.  {Counterspell} for 2 blue and  {Silence} for 1 white, with it rolled all into one card I'd say they are being generous by not adding a colorless. It's not amazing, but it's still a 2fer1.
Well.....,its not quite a 2fer1.  If it read like  {Clan Defiance} it would be very useful.  Like if it said, "counter target spell and/or target player can't cast spells this turn." 

FlickerYourOwnIdentity

SPOILERS UPDATED!!!!!! 

RAL ZAREK REVEALED.  HIS ULTAMITE CAN GET BROKEN. 

NEW MECH IS "Fuse" which let's you cast one, or both halves of the card. 

They brought back the Two cards in one, but not one on the back, and one on front, it's like side to side.

IZZET LEADER REVEALED!

GO TO SPOILERS BECAUSE IM TIRED AND LAZY RIGHT NOW!!!!