Rats In The Attic

[LhûgThalion]

Rats In The Attic 75 cards, 15 sideboard 2 {Dimir Guildgate} 7 {Island} 2 {Reliquary Tower} 11 {Swamp} 22 lands 1 {Deathcult Rogue} 4 {Drainpipe Vermin} 2 {Gutter Skulk} 1 {Ogre Slumlord} 3 {Pack Rat} 3 {Ravenous Rats} 2 {Typhoid Rats} 16 creatures 2 {Chronic Flooding} 2 {Dimir Keyrune} 2 {Divination} 2 {Downsize} 2 {Essence Scatter} 1 {Immortal Servitude} 2 {Index} 1 {Liliana of the Veil} 2 {Mind Sculpt} 2 {Negate} 2 {Sands of Delirium} 2 {Unsummon} 22 other spells Sideboard 2 {Chronic Flooding} 1 {Elixir of Immortality} 1 {Grave Betrayal} 1 {Grimoire of the Dead} 2 {Murder} 1 {Nightveil Specter} 1 {Pack Rat} 1 {Ravenous Rats} 2 {Shadow Slice} 1 {Sleep} 2 {Ultimate Price} 15 sideboard cards Notes: Utilize the {pack rat} clones and {ogre slumlord} ability to "infest the board" while utilizing the removal spells to prevent any countering... Testing has shown a win anywhere from turn 5-8

[Mikefrompluto]

I made a UB rat deck pre-GTC that used {infinite reflection} on {pack rat}. Might try it again. I like that {ogre slumlord} turns all your rats into landmines.

[Everforward]

What's your win condition? The rats, or the mill?

[LhûgThalion]

Honestly it depends on the match, I've played a couple test games with it and actually won on both conditions so it's  about 50/50

[LhûgThalion]

I made a UB rat deck pre-GTC that used {infinite reflection} on {pack rat}. Might try it again. I like that {ogre slumlord} turns all your rats into landmines.

actually that's not a bad idea I don't own an {infinite reflection} so that combo never occurred to me might be a good one to sideboard if I keep this deck when Avacyn swithes to modern

[Mikefrompluto]

It was fun. It would make {ogre slumlord} useless though.

[LhûgThalion]

Not nesseccarily,  {Infinite Reflection} turns all non tokens into a copy of enchanted creature from this point forward, in this case {pack rat}, increasing atk/tgh by +1/+1 for each rat, if however you play {ogre slumlord} prior to the enchantment even if you lose a {pack rat} copy slumlord will replace it with a 1/1 rat token thus negating any losses to the atk/tgh keeping all of the clones and originals at a winning advantage. At least that's how I see it with the proper draw percentage

[LhûgThalion]

Oh nvm I read the ability wrong negate my privious thought.. Too bad though would've been awesome if it worked out that way lmao

[Mikefrompluto]

I said it would be useless because reflection would turn {ogre slumlord} into a {pack rat}, making all your rats lose deathtouch.

[LhûgThalion]

I said it would be useless because reflection would turn {ogre slumlord} into a {pack rat}, making all your rats lose deathtouch.

Yea I realized that after the fact, I Missread and didn't realize it affected current creatures as well -.-

[Wally]

Just do infinite reflection on the slumlord. By that time you should have a token of pack rat out anyway. :) then watch the rat tokens flood the board when something you cast dies. :)

[LhûgThalion]

Just do infinite reflection on the slumlord. By that time you should have a token of pack rat out anyway. :) then watch the rat tokens flood the board when something you cast dies. :)

Although a valid loophole to the issue, by casting {infinite reflection} on the slumlord kind of defeats the purpose of themeing the deck with rats

[LhûgThalion]

Just do infinite reflection on the slumlord. By that time you should have a token of pack rat out anyway. :) then watch the rat tokens flood the board when something you cast dies. :)

Although a valid loophole to the issue, by casting {infinite reflection} on the slumlord kind of defeats the purpose of themeing the deck with rats

casting reflection on {pack rat} will give me clones with ever increasing atk/tgh for (1)(b) or less versus having to multiply one per turn for the (2)(b) ability allowing a faster population rate