Who would win?

[MisterJH]

No clue because the game nerfs so hard, but bookwise im sure it wouldve had unbelievable capabilities.. Too bad the books did not develope with the game, and the series closed long ago. I honestly dont remember the spartan laser being in the book. However even in game, where true capabilities are toned down to enhance actual gameplay possibilities, the spartan laser kills in 1 shot more or less everything. Ever. Boom, done, exploded

[Keyeto]

No clue because the game nerfs so hard, but bookwise im sure it wouldve had unbelievable capabilities.. Too bad the books did not develope with the game, and the series closed long ago. I honestly dont remember the spartan laser being in the book. However even in game, where true capabilities are toned down to enhance actual gameplay possibilities, the spartan laser kills in 1 shot more or less everything. Ever. Boom, done, exploded

But if it kills in one shot things that have far less armor than the Space Marines (and assumingly no regeneration, or second heart) how could it truly destroy one that easily? These things take rounds of rpg (four round burst that are about the size of an Arizona tea can) that have the firepower of....well a rocket propelled grenade. And these things are fired by guns that are so heavy a human would never be able to lift it. These are the pistols, the weak weapons they're used to taking fire from. It doesn't seem to me that the laser would do that much, seeing as taking 4 rpg (fired at an automatic rate) is the norm for these guys. I'm open to be corrected though.

[Malleo]

No clue because the game nerfs so hard, but bookwise im sure it wouldve had unbelievable capabilities.. Too bad the books did not develope with the game, and the series closed long ago. I honestly dont remember the spartan laser being in the book. However even in game, where true capabilities are toned down to enhance actual gameplay possibilities, the spartan laser kills in 1 shot more or less everything. Ever. Boom, done, exploded

But if it kills in one shot things that have far less armor than the Space Marines (and assumingly no regeneration, or second heart) how could it truly destroy one that easily? These things take rounds of rpg (four round burst that are about the size of an Arizona tea can) that have the firepower of....well a rocket propelled grenade. And these things are fired by guns that are so heavy a human would never be able to lift it. These are the pistols, the weak weapons they're used to taking fire from. It doesn't seem to me that the laser would do that much, seeing as taking 4 rpg (fired at an automatic rate) is the norm for these guys. I'm open to be corrected though.

It also one-shots tanks, it has a four shot charge.

[MisterJH]

Well at least in game the spartan laser is much more powerful than rpg, and a different form of weapon. Although i do not know the specifics, more or less an extraordinarily powerful laser capable of destroying everything is made to be handheld by the spartans. It is a unique weapon i feel is likely unknown or introduced to the space marine, and may be able to do some serious damage to their armor and possibly just put a hole right through their heart.. And their other heart. :p

[Keyeto]

Alright then, how would a spartan stand up to a bolter? Currently most Codex chapters use a Astartes MK Vb Godwyn pattern bolter. This has a 30 magazine clip consisting of the .75 caliber Astartes Bolt composed of a diamantine tip, depleted dueterium core, and a mass reasctive detonator. It fires these armor piercing rocket proppeled grenades wider around than an arizona tea can in single shot, four round burst, and full automatic. Human beings cannot lift Boltguns. Could a spartan survive 30 armor piercing rpg shots at full automatic? And that being a BASIC weapon of the Space Marines?

[Keyeto]

And as I recall, the laser takes a while to charge up, and leaves an obvious mark on the opponent. Space Marines are 8 foot tall super beings that can moves so fast the air whip cracks from the sudden vacuum they create. I think they'd dodge the laser.

[InfinitiveDivinity]

Alright then, how would a spartan stand up to a bolter? Currently most Codex chapters use a Astartes MK Vb Godwyn pattern bolter. This has a 30 magazine clip consisting of the .75 caliber Astartes Bolt composed of a diamantine tip, depleted dueterium core, and a mass reasctive detonator. It fires these armor piercing rocket proppeled grenades wider around than an arizona tea can in single shot, four round burst, and full automatic. Human beings cannot lift Boltguns. Could a spartan survive 30 armor piercing rpg shots at full automatic? And that being a BASIC weapon of the Space Marines?

Halo 1 Sniper Pistol, nuff said. Haha, only joking, but that gun is the .poo..

[Malleo]

And as I recall, the laser takes a while to charge up, and leaves an obvious mark on the opponent. Space Marines are 8 foot tall super beings that can moves so fast the air whip cracks from the sudden vacuum they create. I think they'd dodge the laser.

A spartan can perceive events quicker than any normal human being, they might be able to keep a bead on them.

[Keyeto]

And as I recall, the laser takes a while to charge up, and leaves an obvious mark on the opponent. Space Marines are 8 foot tall super beings that can moves so fast the air whip cracks from the sudden vacuum they create. I think they'd dodge the laser.

A spartan can perceive events quicker than any normal human being, they might be able to keep a bead on them.

A Space Marine is hardly a normal human, I think if you can move so fast you create a vacuum in space, you have the ability to dodge a laser. And what are the documented destructive capabilities of the laser?

[MisterJH]

Ya i mean because of te different universes well never reall be sure how impressive the different speeds or reflexes truly are, which is unfortunate because it invalidates this entire nuance of the argument. :/

[InfinitiveDivinity]

Ya i mean because of te different universes well never reall be sure how impressive the different speeds or reflexes truly are, which is unfortunate because it invalidates this entire nuance of the argument. :/

Case closed?

[MisterJH]

Ya i mean because of te different universes well never reall be sure how impressive the different speeds or reflexes truly are, which is unfortunate because it invalidates this entire nuance of the argument. :/

Case closed?

More or less. It seems the battle must come to the aspect that is incomparable. Space marines clearly were given the most broken equipment, equipment so powerful {skullclamp} looks like it should be unbanned and unrestricted in every format. So unless the spartans can outmaneuver the marines unquestionably and flawlessly, the battle is decided. Unfortunately this cannot be tested.

[Keyeto]

True, but Warhammer is such a violent universe. Everything is made for killing. Space Marines have their uh...."reproduction" drives in their brains removed so it doesn't distract them from killing. Literally, everything in the universe is designed to be the most brutal killer imaginable. It maybe I'm just too in love with Warhammer 😉

[MisterJH]

Im getting that vibe strongly.. Also, spartan sex drives are neutralized one way or another.

[Keyeto]

I'm just providing the facts about Marines, that's all. Not trying to make it look like, "Screw Spartans, Warhammer is way cooler". I like both a lot, I just think when it comes down to it, the Space Marines are too overpowered (due to the nature of the universe they live in) for the Spartans to kill.