Mono Black Heartless

Started by Wally, January 31, 2013, 02:35:19 AM

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Wally


Mono Black Heartless

75 cards, 15 sideboard


23 {Swamp}

23 lands


2 {Griselbrand}
1 {Mikaeus, the Unhallowed}
2 {Reaper from the Abyss}
3 {Harvester of Souls}
2 {Bloodgift Demon}
3 {Desecration Demon}
4 {Crypt Ghast}
2 {Vampire Nighthawk}
4 {Black Cat}

23 creatures


4 {Essence Harvest}
2 {Gravepurge}
4 {Sign in Blood}
4 {Heartless Summoning}

14 other spells


Sideboard

2 {Ring of Xathrid}
2 {Xathrid Gorgon}
1 {Gravepurge}
1 {Mikaeus, the Unhallowed}
1 {Vampire Nighthawk}
4 {Mutilate}
4 {Tragic Slip}

15 sideboard cards



Wally

Any thoughts will be much appreciated

Wally

Gunna run this at my FNM tonight, unless we do sealed :)

See how I go I guess..

Jdogtoocool

#3
The gorgon and the renegade demon are pretty useless man, but if you want to make your deck better you should try to round out your mana curb a little by adding 3-4 {demonic taskmaster}s and some {duress} (3-4) to get rid of any board wipes, removal, counter spells, and even plainswalkers. So yeah that's my 2¢

Wally

Quote from: Jdogtoocool on January 31, 2013, 09:18:18 PM
The gorgon and the renegade demon are pretty useless man, but if you want to make your deck better you should try to round out your mana curb a little by adding 3-4 {demonic taskmaster}s and some {duress} (3-4) to get rid of any board wipes, removal, counter spells, and even plainswalkers. So yeah that's my 2¢

Yeah fair call on those two creatures. I guess I was at a loss as to what to use as a mid game beat stick. My ideal substitute for them will be {bloodgift demon}.
Also I don't really mind if they die to heartless or some creature when  {Harvester of Souls} is out in play, (I need to get my hands on 2 more) as the amount of card draw this deck generates with them is crazy.
The gorgon was really just to help against agro and use a bit extra mana if needed. Plus helps shut down and activated annoyances.

I thought I could use the {Gravepurge} to help reset after board wipes, but the only made it to the sideboard.
Counter spells will be my biggest issue with this deck, as you pointed out. Lucky tho, my meta runs very few. :)

Thanks for the tips. :)

Wally

Runs really solid and I love when they have used up all their removal and I put my fattys back on top of my deck with gravepurge.

Any more suggestions?

I think if I can get my hands on  {Lord of the Void} I will probably run 1 of and also 1 of  {Sepulchral Primordial}

Bman0121

If you dont get out your  {Heartless Summoning} you just lose

Wally

Quote from: Bman0121 on February 03, 2013, 12:59:22 PM
If you dont get out your  {Heartless Summoning} you just lose

Firstly I usually get one in my hand at the start, if not usually first mulligan will give me what I need.

Secondly sign in blood is the best way I have to find it, and it has worked for all the games I didn't start with heartless.

So yeah, not really. It just works tons better when I have it, but its no auto fail.

Raiderrob

 {Crypt Ghast} to help ramp into your big boys if you don't get a heartless.

Wally

Quote from: Raiderrob on February 03, 2013, 03:46:31 PM
{Crypt Ghast} to help ramp into your big boys if you don't get a heartless.

I only have 1 so far, and I tried it out, it just seems too fragile up next to all the others. I guess you are right tho, it's good when my heartless isn't there, and won't matter when it is.

Wally

#10
Ok, I'm looking to add  {Liliana of the Dark Realms} to help with mana consultancy and possibly help stabalize the deck a bit. But it's only a 1 of.  4 mana seems to be the sweet spot in this deck, although with more I can do more. My issue is getting from 2 or 3 up to 4 consistently.

I'm having issues of early failures. Maybe it's bad shuffling, but I'm not sure about that either. I do 3 kinds of shuffle and I still end up mana flooded or dry. Plenty of games I've mulliganed down to 5 after winning the roll. Often keeping a less that optimal 5 cards not wanting to go down to 4.

I guess one of my options is up my lands to 23-24 in a chance that will help my opening 7 cards in hand.
What do I remove if this is the path I would like to go?

Wally

Quote from: Raiderrob on February 03, 2013, 03:46:31 PM
{Crypt Ghast} to help ramp into your big boys if you don't get a heartless.

Ok, so I got my hands on a playset of these guys, and seriously, it's rediculious now.

T1. Swamp
T2. Swamp, heartless
T3. Swamp, crypt ghast
T4. Swamp, griselbrand, desecration demon/crypt ghast, etc
T5. Essence harvest & extort & swing?

Best addition ever. Thanks!

Mike_garzone

I love  {Mikaeus, the Unhallowed}, he's just such a beast

Jdogtoocool

If you could get a playset of cavern of souls that would be pretty good for this deck.

Wally

Changed sideboard yet again. Need to deal with fast agro decks.
(And bumping for all the mono colored discussions)