Deadeye Navigator, Zealous Conscripts, Gilded Lotus

Started by Trunksthemighty, December 21, 2012, 05:53:13 PM

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Trunksthemighty

 Does  {Deadeye Navigator} +  {Zealous Conscripts} +  {Gilded Lotus} = automatic victory?

Wally

It gives you lots of mana, but how are you planning on using it?

Trunksthemighty

Use  {Zealous Conscripts} to take all their permanents every turn

Wally

Quote from: Trunksthemighty on December 21, 2012, 05:57:11 PM
Use  {Zealous Conscripts} to take all their permanents every turn

Hmm I see where you are going, you use the lotus to build an insane amount of mana until you don't need to 'flicker' it any more, then do it to all their permenants...

Possibly as you say, they may just concede, if they have hexproof stuff however it may be a bit harder...

Trunksthemighty

Ah yeah thanks for bringing that up. I'll have to think of something for hexproof

AlexF129

Umm.... Gilded only works once per turn in less you have multiples out. This doesn't work. Also, this should be in Combos section.

AlexF129

And odds are they will board wipe if you take everything.

Jroch314

If you figure out something for hexproof let me know lol

ducttapetitan

Quote from: AlexF129 on December 21, 2012, 06:37:12 PM
And odds are they will board wipe if you take everything.

I would like to see that happen

Wally

Quote from: ducttapetitan on December 21, 2012, 06:40:15 PM
Quote from: AlexF129 on December 21, 2012, 06:37:12 PM
And odds are they will board wipe if you take everything.

I would like to see that happen

Especially with no mana

Wally

Quote from: Jroch314 on December 21, 2012, 06:37:50 PM
If you figure out something for hexproof let me know lol

Overloaded  {Cyclonic Rift} would do the trick for creatures as long as the player themselves wasn't hexproof

Gorzo

There is no real "automatic win" in magic: no matter what the combo, its always possible that your opponent has a response and/or answer that could stop you and/or keep the game going.

Even if you have a card like {laboratory maniac} that says "if you do this, you win the game," you can't just say "I'm doing this, I WIN!" Because an opponent responding with {Doom Blade} could turn your "I WIN" into "I LOSE!"

Wally

Quote from: AlexF129 on December 21, 2012, 06:35:57 PM
Umm.... Gilded only works once per turn in less you have multiples out. This doesn't work. Also, this should be in Combos section.

The trick is you flicker the lotus, it being an artifact allows you to tap it immediately and rinse, repeat.

scarsabrex

Quote from: Wally on December 21, 2012, 07:18:14 PM
Quote from: AlexF129 on December 21, 2012, 06:35:57 PM
Umm.... Gilded only works once per turn in less you have multiples out. This doesn't work. Also, this should be in Combos section.

The trick is you flicker the lotus, it being an artifact allows you to tap it immediately and rinse, repeat.

No you flicker the conscripts and untap the lotus actually.

Wally

Quote from: scarsabrex on December 21, 2012, 07:43:14 PM
Quote from: Wally on December 21, 2012, 07:18:14 PM
Quote from: AlexF129 on December 21, 2012, 06:35:57 PM
Umm.... Gilded only works once per turn in less you have multiples out. This doesn't work. Also, this should be in Combos section.

The trick is you flicker the lotus, it being an artifact allows you to tap it immediately and rinse, repeat.

No you flicker the conscripts and untap the lotus actually.

Haha yeah that's what I ment, sorry, too early in the morning.