I need the codes.

[Jroch314]

I'm going with they are not all the same. Have you ever played COD extensively then switched to halo and tried to look down your sights and throw your grenades everywhere?? Hate it when that happens.

[prayos]

I'm going with they are not all the same. Have you ever played COD extensively then switched to halo and tried to look down your sights and throw your grenades everywhere?? Hate it when that happens.

That just sounds like a keymapping issue.  Doesn't make the game different.

[Disturbed1jwh]

I'm going with they are not all the same. Have you ever played COD extensively then switched to halo and tried to look down your sights and throw your grenades everywhere?? Hate it when that happens.

That just sounds like a keymapping issue.  Doesn't make the game different.

I've played COD then tried to switch to halo. The sights just don't feel as tight in halo as they do COD.

[prayos]

Sadly, the issue I have with video games these days spreads across all genres. 

RPG games hasn't evolved from the 3 basic quests(explore, fedex, assassinate) nor have they changed any story.  They are all the same:  Save the world.  The only thing they do is they try to change the gameplay with different mechanics and that is why I play them.  Some mechanics are good, others are shite.

RTS's are the same.  Build town.  Gather resource.  Build Army.  Swarm enemy.  I've yet to see one that changed that paradigm in a way that was worth a damn.  However, I play these because I do find them fun.  Like FPSs, multiple play throughs can allow different paths to be taken. 

Now, all of this isn't to say that I don't play FPSs at all.  I do.  I quite enjoy Borderlands, Fallout, Doom, Quake.  And at points, they are fun and enjoyable.  Mostly when I'm in multiplayer. 

[Fenster]

Sadly, the issue I have with video games these days spreads across all genres. 

RPG games hasn't evolved from the 3 basic quests(explore, fedex, assassinate) nor have they changed any story.  They are all the same:  Save the world.  The only thing they do is they try to change the gameplay with different mechanics and that is why I play them.  Some mechanics are good, others are shite.

RTS's are the same.  Build town.  Gather resource.  Build Army.  Swarm enemy.  I've yet to see one that changed that paradigm in a way that was worth a damn.  However, I play these because I do find them fun.  Like FPSs, multiple play throughs can allow different paths to be taken. 

Now, all of this isn't to say that I don't play FPSs at all.  I do.  I quite enjoy Borderlands, Fallout, Doom, Quake.  And at points, they are fun and enjoyable.  Mostly when I'm in multiplayer.

You havent played many rpg's and rts's then.  Not trying to throw down on your opinion im just stating there are rpg's and rts's that are very different from the standard you're pointing out. Wich is true to some extent but not for all games out there.

[Maximo]

It reeks of cynicism in here

[prayos]

You havent played many rpg's and rts's then.  Not trying to throw down on your opinion im just stating there are rpg's and rts's that are very different from the standard you're pointing out. Wich is true to some extent but not for all games out there.

I've played quite a few.  Do you have any specific ones in mind?  I'm always open to enlightenment.

[Mikefrompluto]

This is why we can't have nice things.

[Fenster]

You havent played many rpg's and rts's then.  Not trying to throw down on your opinion im just stating there are rpg's and rts's that are very different from the standard you're pointing out. Wich is true to some extent but not for all games out there.

I've played quite a few.  Do you have any specific ones in mind?  I'm always open to enlightenment.

For strategy you've got Black and White 2 where you have a completly different way to beat your opponent if you so wich.

Rpg is tougher.
It depends of what you consider "rpg" but im guessing more traditional level up with stats kind of rpg?

[prayos]

That's why I like Civ 5.  There's so many ways to win.  Not exactly RTS, but sorta.  I honestly hadn't seen much about Black and White 2.  Matter of fact, my first thought was Pokemon Black and White 2, lol.

And yeah, RPG in the traditional sense.  However, I think games like Fallout and Borderlands can be considered RPG as well. 

[Legion468]

That's why I like Civ 5.  There's so many ways to win.  Not exactly RTS, but sorta.  I honestly hadn't seen much about Black and White 2.  Matter of fact, my first thought was Pokemon Black and White 2, lol.

And yeah, RPG in the traditional sense.  However, I think games like Fallout and Borderlands can be considered RPG as well.

Uh Idk much about borderlands but Fallout is defiantly an RPG

[prayos]

Honestly, I play Borderlands 1 & 2 for the writing.  The NPC's are all freaking hilarious.  But it's kind of in the same vein of Fallout.  FPS with RPG elements.  Skill tree and all.

[Legion468]

Honestly, I play Borderlands 1 & 2 for the writing.  The NPC's are all freaking hilarious.  But it's kind of in the same vein of Fallout.  FPS with RPG elements.  Skill tree and all.

You know because an FPS can win best RPG of the year and you don't even have to play in first person you can go into third

[Silent1236]

And yeah, RPG in the traditional sense.  However, I think games like Fallout and Borderlands can be considered RPG as well.

Ok, I'm gonna be hypocritical and chip in here. 

Fallout is an RPG with elements of FPS, not the other way around.  Look back to fallout 1, 2, and the spin off dealie amidst them.  Not at all FPS, but very RPG.  Guns dont make a game a first person shooter alone. 

[prayos]

You're correct.  In the case of Fallout, I definitely meant it the other way around.  But Borderlands is FPS first, RPG second.