Standard is now broke!

Started by Mactitioner, October 21, 2012, 07:27:03 PM

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Redrighthand

Quote from: Greg54js on October 22, 2012, 01:12:51 PM
Quote from: Mactitioner on October 21, 2012, 07:27:03 PM
{Trostani, Selesnya's Voice} +  {Séance} .... Think of the awesome stuff you could make!
Now do the tokens created by her populate still have the exile at the end step clause?
I would think not as  {Séance} is written "exile token at next end step" not "token has exile at next end step" therefore I believe the populated tokens would stick around.

Greg54js

After further review: trostani's populated version of seance's token would stick around. Seance has the exile clause not the token itself

Mactitioner

After discovering this combo last night I play tested it in my junk rites deck and it gives me another condition to get creatures from the grave yard and makes  {Angel of Serenity} that more powerful. It can act as a board clear in most situations. I'm going to use it at FNM to see how it runs there.

whitedrake

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Quote from: Mactitioner on October 22, 2012, 02:51:09 PM
After discovering this combo last night I play tested it in my junk rites deck and it gives me another condition to get creatures from the grave yard and makes  {Angel of Serenity} that more powerful. It can act as a board clear in most situations. I'm going to use it at FNM to see how it runs there.

And I thought that {Angel of Serenity} will be used more like library and graveyard tutor...:) not as a board wiper...:D

Wackaman9001

Quote from: Fenster on October 22, 2012, 09:07:54 AM
Quote from: Maximo on October 22, 2012, 04:57:44 AM
Quote from: Redrighthand on October 22, 2012, 01:28:56 AM
Quote from: Maximo on October 22, 2012, 12:28:12 AM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on October 22, 2012, 12:02:12 AM
{lotleth troll}.... I already said this once...

......... what would lotleth troll do to make him a better target than an {angel of serenity} or something...........?

I think the idea is that you would not send the  {Lotleth Troll} through the  {Séance} but rather feed the creature tokens generated by the seance to the troll.

You don't sac creatures to the troll, you discard creature cards from your hand.
I think he means like a discarding outlet. If you make it junk ({W}{B}{G} right?)
You can make a seance/trostani/lotleth/unburial rites deck even more powerful than it used to be!
Bingo!! Tossing a {crater hoof behemoth}
Makes for an interesting turn, this also combines well with cards like {growing ranks}. 3 behemoths enter and you swing the one that exiles, which is the biggest and gets bigger from your 5 sublimes, that's how you win

Mactitioner

How does the stack work if you have both  {Growing Ranks} and  {Séance} out at the same time?

Greg54js

So you put growing ranks on first then seance's. Seance's resolves then growing ranks resolves

Mactitioner

So what do you think is the better combination with  {Séance}...  {Growing Ranks} or  {Trostani, Selesnya's Voice}?

Wally

Why not both? One you pay for and can do whenever (their turn) and the other happens every one of your turns.

Wackaman9001

I use both because trostani also gives life gain

whitedrake

RIP on u guys...:D

It must be really over combined but it must be really fun...:D

Wackaman9001

Rest in peace is dangerous but that's why you run sunderring growth

whitedrake

Hehe am glad I play both in my selesnya...:D

Wackaman9001

Also, I run the counterbird so I can populate soft counters if I choose, making your RIP unplayable :)
/hatin'

whitedrake

Quote from: Wackaman9001 on October 24, 2012, 02:04:16 AM
Also, I run the counterbird so I can populate soft counters if I choose, making your RIP unplayable :)
/hatin'

Hehe I bet that aggro selesnya would defeat that combination bfr it would start work properly..;)